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  • Mar 1, 2022
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    www quakerboy us

    what peaked my interest here was socialism without as much marxist theory?

    @spongebob

    You could look at people like Sankara, for one, and other revolutionary people, and probably some stuff in Latin America, other asian nations

    the thing is though a lot of socialist s*** comes from ML ideas

  • Mar 1, 2022
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    spongebob

    You could look at people like Sankara, for one, and other revolutionary people, and probably some stuff in Latin America, other asian nations

    the thing is though a lot of socialist s*** comes from ML ideas

    yeah for sure

  • Mar 1, 2022
    www quakerboy us

    what peaked my interest here was socialism without as much marxist theory?

    @spongebob

    I'm calling a lifeline on this cause I'm still in some sort of novice/early stage of my understanding

  • Mar 1, 2022
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    www quakerboy us

    not sure what you’re asking here really. i think anything in the sphere?

    topics like imperialism, fiance, philosophy, or just general intro stuff

  • Mar 1, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    topics like imperialism, fiance, philosophy, or just general intro stuff

    general intro stuff, i also can’t remember anything i read, so that hurts also

  • Mar 1, 2022
    www quakerboy us

    yeah for sure

    i would say go for maybe one of the basic texts of lenin, a couple from mao which @Womanpuncher69 can link u to, it helps a***yzing the tenant/landlord class,

    then a little bit of Castro, I'm not as educated on African socialists/revolutionary but I know its there, there's a lot of Asian countries too that probably have some useful stuff

    There's so much reading thats the thing about socialism is there's not just like 3 main texts its so vast

  • Mar 1, 2022
    www quakerboy us

    general intro stuff, i also can’t remember anything i read, so that hurts also

    I would say

    State and Revolution from Lenin (because it talks about the dictatorship of the proletariat which is an essential concept)

    @Womanpuncher69 what's a foundational maoist text?

    then some more marx and engels

    maybe some luxembourg? i haven't gotten into her writing yet

    Then there's people like Parenti

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    www quakerboy us

    hey fellas can you recommend me so socialist readings or adjacent. just finished wage labour and capital by marx

    A good continuation would be Imperialism by Lenin to learn how the mechanisms of capitalism progress into imperial tendencies. From there read state and revolution to understand how the state reinforces these structures and why violent Revolution is seen as imperative

    Blackshirts and Reds contextualizes Leninism into the 20th century and a***yzes how Lenin’s theory manifested itself in the century. It then postulates questions about how we can move forward from the 1900’s and it’s events

  • Mar 1, 2022

    s*** really had me saying "I would say...." multiple times i really am robotic capitalism won im about to go buy stocks see ya guys

    sike

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    state and revolution
    imperialism
    socialism utopian and scientific
    how europe underdeveloped africa
    neo-colionalism
    on contradiction
    on practice
    pedagogy of the oppressed
    wretched of the earth

  • Mar 2, 2022
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  • Synopsis

    @derekdod

    thank you!

  • Mar 2, 2022

    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

    and yet most evangelic / wasp Christians in America are bible thumping capitalists

  • Mar 2, 2022
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    www quakerboy us

    hey fellas can you recommend me so socialist readings or adjacent. just finished wage labour and capital by marx

    if youre like me whos really bad at reading and staying focused

    blackshirts and reds is the one book i read in like two days and was intrigued the whole way, Parenti writes super smoothly, usually takes me way longer to finish literature but not this one

    think its more about historical s*** than explaining theory tho

    read principles of communism by engels beforehand its super short

  • Mar 2, 2022
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    fun guy

    if youre like me whos really bad at reading and staying focused

    blackshirts and reds is the one book i read in like two days and was intrigued the whole way, Parenti writes super smoothly, usually takes me way longer to finish literature but not this one

    think its more about historical s*** than explaining theory tho

    read principles of communism by engels beforehand its super short

    i wouldn’t know how to qualify myself as a reader since i’ve only ever read for school assignments. but now i’m doing it as cognitive therapy to grow my attention span and help refurbish everything i lost in my cognitive stroke, but now that i have anterograde amnesia it really sucks because i can’t remember what i read as soon as i close the book

  • Mar 2, 2022
    www quakerboy us

    i wouldn’t know how to qualify myself as a reader since i’ve only ever read for school assignments. but now i’m doing it as cognitive therapy to grow my attention span and help refurbish everything i lost in my cognitive stroke, but now that i have anterograde amnesia it really sucks because i can’t remember what i read as soon as i close the book

    annotate

  • Mar 2, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    They are vulgar anti-imperialists. What no theory does to a mfer = support the other side always

    Still important work they are doing but to be taken with a grain of salt

    yea thats exactly what i mean

    you got Dengoids like Ajit Singh jumping through hoops to prove that modern China is "ackshually socialist" - theres some merit there but he goes way too OD riding Chinas d***

    think they do the same thing with Russia. Max and Rania used to be vehemently anti-Assad circa ~2013 but they suddenly switched up, they got ulterior motives

  • Mar 2, 2022

    bUt YoU sOcIaLiStS ArE cOnDeScEnDiNg

    meanwhile everyone trying to recommend the most helpful texts when someone enters the thread in good faith

  • Mar 2, 2022
    fun guy

    yea thats exactly what i mean

    you got Dengoids like Ajit Singh jumping through hoops to prove that modern China is "ackshually socialist" - theres some merit there but he goes way too OD riding Chinas d***

    think they do the same thing with Russia. Max and Rania used to be vehemently anti-Assad circa ~2013 but they suddenly switched up, they got ulterior motives

    Dengists been celebrating when Russia makes any new gains, they’ve been actively rooting on the Russian army

  • Mar 2, 2022
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    um does anyone have any info on yugoslavia's socialist development despite it being a federation? how did it hold up compared to the ussr's? mainly asking bc the war of succession in my country may sever the possibility of the current unitary state's existence in the future, and i'm wondering how socialist development on a (con)federal basis would still be feasible. i need to get more familiar with political economy and the like in general tho

  • Mar 2, 2022
    viscera

    um does anyone have any info on yugoslavia's socialist development despite it being a federation? how did it hold up compared to the ussr's? mainly asking bc the war of succession in my country may sever the possibility of the current unitary state's existence in the future, and i'm wondering how socialist development on a (con)federal basis would still be feasible. i need to get more familiar with political economy and the like in general tho

    marxists.org/history/international/comintern/sino-soviet-split/cpc/yugoslavia.htm

    Here's something put out by the People's Daily in 1963 on Yugoslavia

  • Mar 2, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    They are vulgar anti-imperialists. What no theory does to a mfer = support the other side always

    Still important work they are doing but to be taken with a grain of salt

    Aaron Mate isn't that bad tho

  • Mar 2, 2022
    fun guy

    are Aaron Mate/Max Blumenthal/Grayzone people socialists? they do a lot of dunking on Western Imperialism but never seen them actually discuss any theory

    something seems off

    i read the occasional piece from them, their work is good i just find them very sus like they dont seem human to me

    They do good journalism, but Max Blumenthal is definitely a weirdo lmao, Ben Norton left Grayzone because of "different directions".

    With some of em their "ideology" is unironically just anti-Americanism. So they're automatically right when it comes to international politics 99% of the time, but sometimes they do spread some misinformation by either not vetting the info or intentionally because they are targeted by US imperialism, like Tragedy said he's doing for Ukraine now

  • Mar 2, 2022
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    From a socialist perspective, Breakthrough News is doing the best coverage and a***ysis of this Ukraine thing right now. Peoples Dispatch, Workers world party and Black alliance for Peace too.