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  • Jan 24, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    Which degrees are antithetical to capitalism? Lol

    just an incoherent post tbh. like, i can buy marxist literature on amazon. point of capitalism is it will commodify anything and everything

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    Synopsis

    just an incoherent post tbh. like, i can buy marxist literature on amazon. point of capitalism is it will commodify anything and everything

    And allowing selected pressure vaults within capitalism further legitimizes the system ("At least in MURICA we can say s*** about the president! Yee haw!")

    Furthermore capitalism did not originally develop from imperialism, even if imperialism is an important way capitalism reproduces itself

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    And allowing selected pressure vaults within capitalism further legitimizes the system ("At least in MURICA we can say s*** about the president! Yee haw!")

    Furthermore capitalism did not originally develop from imperialism, even if imperialism is an important way capitalism reproduces itself

    Yeah. Outright banning that s*** would be completely antithetical to how capitalism operates in the first place lol.

    Yup he got the chronology backwards. It was ofc the need for constant growth inherent to capitalism that brought about imperialism

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    speaking of imperialism

    last two purchases. reading capitalism and education next but then these

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    Synopsis

    speaking of imperialism

    last two purchases. reading capitalism and education next but then these

    Zak COPE

  • Jan 24, 2022
    Synopsis

    Yeah. Outright banning that s*** would be completely antithetical to how capitalism operates in the first place lol.

    Yup he got the chronology backwards. It was ofc the need for constant growth inherent to capitalism that brought about imperialism

    Imperialism predates capitalism but when we speak of imperialism we mean the definition of Lenin. It doesn't make sense to discuss today's capitalism without imperialism and vice versa. Still, the economic base is capitalism, imperialism on its own is not a way of structuring an economy but just a way to offset sinking profits like you said and ensure access to new workers, markets and resources

  • Jan 24, 2022

    Smh, I've been a terrible communist lately, I've let a bunch of s*** get in the way of my political development and organizing.

  • Jan 24, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    Zak COPE

  • Jan 24, 2022
    Synopsis

    speaking of imperialism

    last two purchases. reading capitalism and education next but then these

    Interesting

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    krishna bound

    this is just a random off note but i continually see discussions on this topic all over twitter/reddit/this forum/general internet, and i think there needs to be a serious discussion on how the US is not as competent as it was in the 60-80s and why it can no longer be considered some type of omnipotent "great satan"-esque hydra; the remainder of the US "empire" is honestly more symbolic of the damages and influences of this than it is actually actively an entity in that direction.
    every time anything happens virtually anywhere (domestic or international), the default assumption of virtually everyone from all ideological backgrounds is to go "oh its the feds again". the theoretical status of US intelligence agencies has been elevated to a literal omnipotent all-powerful mythological status in the eyes of virtually all US detractors.
    i'm not saying the US still doesn't universally f*** around (like yeah of course they do) and that fed ops aren't real (fed entrapment is obviously still real), that's obviously not the case or anything, but i think it should be acknowledged just how weak, quasi-symbolic, and honestly laughable the actual internal operations of the US are these days; the only thing the US intelligence/military has going for it is money - it literally has almost nothing else. It's a completely fractured, incompetent, self-serving system.
    Now don't get me wrong, sometimes wielding enough money is itself a powerful tool - especially if you look at sanctions or rebel arms funneling (i.e. Syria, Iran), but these scenarios are far more out in the open and follow simplistic international relations rather than really covert secret operations - and moreso, these operations usually suck. Assad is still in power despite everything the US has done. And while people like to (myself included, and rightfully so) point to Libya as an example of the US still possessing despicable regime change power, and while that's true, I think it should be acknowledged a lot of the fault there also really lies on Libya themselves for essentially trusting the US in any way shape or form and then allowing the US to shank them in the back. When countries basically tell the US to piss off (remember Juan Guaido lmao), the most the US can do is cripple them economically (which is still bad + influential to be clear) - the US's covert ops and wider "hard power" is increasingly decrepit outside of controlling banking basically - which ironically is at odds with the desires of many corporations; look at Coca-Cola for example, which is against US sanctions of Iran because they lose money not importing to that market and have to cheat sanctions. Even large domestic corporations (more powerful than the "real" government) basically are often at odds with the will of the "old guard" military complex, which by now has been quasi-compressed into "military/intelligence having the ability to manipulate banking diplomacy"; actual US military/intelligence power can barely work even in countries that literally do not even have centralized government antagonists.
    the status of US intelligence and also the power of the US military in terms of global influence isn't what it used to be in the 60s, but everyone still basically talks about them as if they are; in reality, i think it probably needs to be acknowledged how much of the US soft power exported comes not from the government but basically from the influence of media & larger conglomerate corporations (which serve themselves are international conglomerates essentially rather than the US as a central entity) as a far more omnipotent branch of authority. Like the media/corporate-industrial complex arguably wields far more power and international (and domestic) influence than the military/intelligence-industrial complex these days, and the factors that go into that are very distinct from the old, heavily simplistic and narrow pro-western bloc goals. everyone still seems to talk about US as if it's the 60s and the context is still the same as the cold war.

    you could def write for a political publication if you don't already

  • Jan 24, 2022
    krishna bound

    this is just a random off note but i continually see discussions on this topic all over twitter/reddit/this forum/general internet, and i think there needs to be a serious discussion on how the US is not as competent as it was in the 60-80s and why it can no longer be considered some type of omnipotent "great satan"-esque hydra; the remainder of the US "empire" is honestly more symbolic of the damages and influences of this than it is actually actively an entity in that direction.
    every time anything happens virtually anywhere (domestic or international), the default assumption of virtually everyone from all ideological backgrounds is to go "oh its the feds again". the theoretical status of US intelligence agencies has been elevated to a literal omnipotent all-powerful mythological status in the eyes of virtually all US detractors.
    i'm not saying the US still doesn't universally f*** around (like yeah of course they do) and that fed ops aren't real (fed entrapment is obviously still real), that's obviously not the case or anything, but i think it should be acknowledged just how weak, quasi-symbolic, and honestly laughable the actual internal operations of the US are these days; the only thing the US intelligence/military has going for it is money - it literally has almost nothing else. It's a completely fractured, incompetent, self-serving system.
    Now don't get me wrong, sometimes wielding enough money is itself a powerful tool - especially if you look at sanctions or rebel arms funneling (i.e. Syria, Iran), but these scenarios are far more out in the open and follow simplistic international relations rather than really covert secret operations - and moreso, these operations usually suck. Assad is still in power despite everything the US has done. And while people like to (myself included, and rightfully so) point to Libya as an example of the US still possessing despicable regime change power, and while that's true, I think it should be acknowledged a lot of the fault there also really lies on Libya themselves for essentially trusting the US in any way shape or form and then allowing the US to shank them in the back. When countries basically tell the US to piss off (remember Juan Guaido lmao), the most the US can do is cripple them economically (which is still bad + influential to be clear) - the US's covert ops and wider "hard power" is increasingly decrepit outside of controlling banking basically - which ironically is at odds with the desires of many corporations; look at Coca-Cola for example, which is against US sanctions of Iran because they lose money not importing to that market and have to cheat sanctions. Even large domestic corporations (more powerful than the "real" government) basically are often at odds with the will of the "old guard" military complex, which by now has been quasi-compressed into "military/intelligence having the ability to manipulate banking diplomacy"; actual US military/intelligence power can barely work even in countries that literally do not even have centralized government antagonists.
    the status of US intelligence and also the power of the US military in terms of global influence isn't what it used to be in the 60s, but everyone still basically talks about them as if they are; in reality, i think it probably needs to be acknowledged how much of the US soft power exported comes not from the government but basically from the influence of media & larger conglomerate corporations (which serve themselves are international conglomerates essentially rather than the US as a central entity) as a far more omnipotent branch of authority. Like the media/corporate-industrial complex arguably wields far more power and international (and domestic) influence than the military/intelligence-industrial complex these days, and the factors that go into that are very distinct from the old, heavily simplistic and narrow pro-western bloc goals. everyone still seems to talk about US as if it's the 60s and the context is still the same as the cold war.

    enjoyed reading this for sure

    1 thing that came to mind at the end part is that I think it's quite easy to fall into that view that the U.S. is repeating things reminiscent of the 60's when the flavors of the Cold War/Civil Rights Movement are ever present these days... So I honestly can't blame someone for going that route although it'd be obviously essential to recognize the specific challenges and differences to our time and 50-60 years ago...

  • Jan 24, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    Which degrees are antithetical to capitalism? Lol

    business degrees ?

    I mean technically a lot of people go for those because: They want to be able to go into sales/start a business... something of that nature... and potentially learn much about how to profit and benefit from the capitalist system so

  • Jan 24, 2022
    mythic

    Reducing it to simply ‘capitalism’ is counterproductive, if it reproduced capitalism only then why would people go to university and achieve their “degrees” in studies supposedly antithetical to capitalism? The root of capitalism is imperialism and it’s a dogmatised imperialist ‘view’ of the world that is taught in mass education that corrodes all intellectual capacity.

    Imperialism is rooted in capitalism. Imperialism doesn’t manifest itself without a need to extract material wealth

  • Jan 24, 2022

    My teacher got us watching prager u videos💀

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    businessinsider.com/thedacare-asks-judge-block-workers-leaving-higher-pay-competitor-2022-1

    a judge literally ruled that a healthcare employer is allowed to restrict its employees from leaving to work elsewhere and that certain employees are forcibly bound to this one employer and cannot legally go to competitors with betters benefits or rates. probably one of the most insane stories to come out in recent times.

  • Jan 24, 2022
    krishna bound

    https://www.businessinsider.com/thedacare-asks-judge-block-workers-leaving-higher-pay-competitor-2022-1

    a judge literally ruled that a healthcare employer is allowed to restrict its employees from leaving to work elsewhere and that certain employees are forcibly bound to this one employer and cannot legally go to competitors with betters benefits or rates. probably one of the most insane stories to come out in recent times.

    I hope they can challenge this in a higher court

  • Jan 24, 2022

    Serfdom in the lane of freedom

  • Jan 24, 2022
    spongebob

    you could def write for a political publication if you don't already

    ive written some stuff here and there but i usually dislike sitting down to do long-form writing, i burn out pretty quickly

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    Can someone give me a socialist perspective on NFT’s?

  • Jan 24, 2022
    krishna bound

    https://www.businessinsider.com/thedacare-asks-judge-block-workers-leaving-higher-pay-competitor-2022-1

    a judge literally ruled that a healthcare employer is allowed to restrict its employees from leaving to work elsewhere and that certain employees are forcibly bound to this one employer and cannot legally go to competitors with betters benefits or rates. probably one of the most insane stories to come out in recent times.

    Tfw your healthcare workers are such heroes you have to turn them into serfs

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    slyTendencies

    Can someone give me a socialist perspective on NFT’s?

    They're just a new form of fictitious capital for people to gain or lose money speculating on.

  • Jan 24, 2022
    Level 5 Goblin

    They're just a new form of fictitious capital for people to gain or lose money speculating on.

    I just read this Damn it’s really a bunch of speculative BS

    socialist.net/nfts-and-spacs-the-insanity-of-casino-capitalism.htm

  • Jan 25, 2022

    Kropotkin ended being right about Lenin bros

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    I hate Gonzaloists so much and it's so obvious a lot of it was astroturfed online right after that old f*** croaked in jail

    Even funnier when they try to make him a martyr like dawg he was in jail for 30 years and the Shining Path doesn't even exist anymore, why should they allow him to be a martyr, mans was 89 years old Gonzaloids really reaching hard

    Legit one of the most insane "leftist" ideologies out there with some of the most unhinged cultist members I saw. Even Trotskyists seem sane in comparison. Mostly an internet meme ideology for Americans as well.

    One USian guy on Twitter wrote me that the Shining Path was right for attacking the Cuban embassy as a symbol against revisionism. Dawg shut your cracker ass up

    Then they try to justify murdering trade unionists by saying they are reformists as if that even matters

    Yeah bro I will support the organization that bombed Soviets Chinese and Cubans, great fellows

    Definitely didn't help justify Fujimori's crackdown on leftism

    50 more years of PPW and maybe they can take over Peru after a century of trying the same strategy while hoping for different results

    Yeah bro the communist party of canada will restructure as a militaristic organization very soon, politics has no relation to time and space, it's just 1940s China over and over again

    I'm sure you can convince the masses this way

    The casual way they advocate for revolution, violence, war and murder without any gravitas all from the comfort of their New Jersey home is wild, what a LARP. I would respect them slightly more if they actually put their money where their mouth is and took up arms instead of being zoomer discord addicts ...