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    Y’all socialist socialites b throwin the most hilarious parities g lmao

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    Y’all b gettin no p**** unless it’s implied tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

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    I can’t get none unless the homes get some type beat

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    Politically, you guys have it figured out. The downside is that we’re entering a phase in life where the elites realize the power of socialism/communism thus a potential utopia for all becomes another form of chattel slavery.

    If we all lived during the dark ages, I’d be rockin with y’all but spiritually we’re entering Revelation 13:11-18 and your enthusiasm will be our downfall of humanity. Like I really f w y’all but it honestly isn’t the right time for it unless it’s practiced amongst small groups of people.

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    I know this gone sound off kilter but if you pay attention to the stories that people say about the Sumerian tablets, that’s what the modern elites want. They believe the they’re the modern version of those gods and we’re here to serve them. Ancient Sumer is called Mystery Babylon of our time. People that are Free Masons, are indoctrinated into that Masonic/Babylonian belief system. Masonry dates back to the time of the Nimrod/Gilgamesh/Marduk flood.

    Nimrod wanted all of humanity to serve him while us civilians are “equal” to each other.

    Just please don’t fall into the trap of doing “good” 4 the wrong team.

    I just advise if u haven’t, learn about Ancient Sumer and masonry as much as u can because you’ll see how much of these elitist beliefs have infiltrated your system.

    Peace.

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    I know this gone sound off kilter but if you pay attention to the stories that people say about the Sumerian tablets, that’s what the modern elites want. They believe the they’re the modern version of those gods and we’re here to serve them. Ancient Sumer is called Mystery Babylon of our time. People that are Free Masons, are indoctrinated into that Masonic/Babylonian belief system. Masonry dates back to the time of the Nimrod/Gilgamesh/Marduk flood.

    Nimrod wanted all of humanity to serve him while us civilians are “equal” to each other.

    Just please don’t fall into the trap of doing “good” 4 the wrong team.

    I just advise if u haven’t, learn about Ancient Sumer and masonry as much as u can because you’ll see how much of these elitist beliefs have infiltrated your system.

    Peace.

    ik ur gonna get dunked on and all but preemptively what elitist beliefs

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    deadacc

    ik ur gonna get dunked on and all but preemptively what elitist beliefs

    Read the posts again, get some p**** and post nut clarity it will make sense.

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    as a side note is idealism like bestowed's fundamentally fascist and inconvertible to dialectical materialism.

    obviously education and agitation help create class consciousness but class consciousness within an idealist philosophy is still inherently immaterial. so in this sense would it be more productive to argue for existentialism instead of attempting any form of logical persuasion

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    Bestowed

    Politically, you guys have it figured out. The downside is that we’re entering a phase in life where the elites realize the power of socialism/communism thus a potential utopia for all becomes another form of chattel slavery.

    If we all lived during the dark ages, I’d be rockin with y’all but spiritually we’re entering Revelation 13:11-18 and your enthusiasm will be our downfall of humanity. Like I really f w y’all but it honestly isn’t the right time for it unless it’s practiced amongst small groups of people.

    u gotta work on ur sexual insecurity man sincerely

    "11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."

    this literally describes capitalism

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    deadacc

    u gotta work on ur sexual insecurity man sincerely

    "11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."

    this literally describes capitalism

    I wouldn’t write it off as Capitalism. Yes that’s apart of the problem but capitalism doesn’t cause all of us to buy or sell. Capitalism is indeed the image of the beast, I’ll give u that. The decadent mindset via entertainment, decadence etc, that’s the image of America/the beast.

    The first beast of Rev 13 is the Renaissance Period. Ancient Rome is the deadly wound that was healed. Renaissance literally means rebirth. Then with Columbus, we engage in the birth of the second beast hence this transition “he that leads into captivity goes into captivity” America is shown with slavery as well as “he that kills w the sword dies w the sword”. That’s Dum Diversas & the diaspora & wars that followed.

    This new industry 4.0 that we’re entering it itself is this new beast. Lamb that speaks of the dragon. Imagine not having to work, but receiving a UBI with healthcare and incentives.

    Lambs speak calmly but the dragon tongue carries deception.

    Causing all to by or sell lest they take the mark is Eurocentric Communism. Look at the CCP. The forehead mark is a form of neurotechnology along with the IOB. The mark in the hand is ofc the RFID chip & folks that adhere to it.

    The new system is going to be “decentralized” meaning everyone even in Africa will be apart of it.

    It’s nothing to fear, just an energy/mindset to reject.

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    Someone on twitter (lol i know) tweeted that if you don't understand dialectical and historical materialism, then you're not a socialist. She then went on to post a YouTube audio book that talks about the concepts. I'm wondering what you guys think of this tendency of gatekeeping that exists on the left, Is it absolutely necessary for someone to have a deep understanding of all these concepts in order to "qualify" as a socialist?

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    slyTendencies

    Someone on twitter (lol i know) tweeted that if you don't understand dialectical and historical materialism, then you're not a socialist. She then went on to post a YouTube audio book that talks about the concepts. I'm wondering what you guys think of this tendency of gatekeeping that exists on the left, Is it absolutely necessary for someone to have a deep understanding of all these concepts in order to "qualify" as a socialist?

    Socialism no, Marxism yes

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    Socialism is simply the concept of workers owning their labor and you can come to that conclusion however you’d like

    Marxism is the scientific process of such

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    Bestowed

    I wouldn’t write it off as Capitalism. Yes that’s apart of the problem but capitalism doesn’t cause all of us to buy or sell. Capitalism is indeed the image of the beast, I’ll give u that. The decadent mindset via entertainment, decadence etc, that’s the image of America/the beast.

    The first beast of Rev 13 is the Renaissance Period. Ancient Rome is the deadly wound that was healed. Renaissance literally means rebirth. Then with Columbus, we engage in the birth of the second beast hence this transition “he that leads into captivity goes into captivity” America is shown with slavery as well as “he that kills w the sword dies w the sword”. That’s Dum Diversas & the diaspora & wars that followed.

    This new industry 4.0 that we’re entering it itself is this new beast. Lamb that speaks of the dragon. Imagine not having to work, but receiving a UBI with healthcare and incentives.

    Lambs speak calmly but the dragon tongue carries deception.

    Causing all to by or sell lest they take the mark is Eurocentric Communism. Look at the CCP. The forehead mark is a form of neurotechnology along with the IOB. The mark in the hand is ofc the RFID chip & folks that adhere to it.

    The new system is going to be “decentralized” meaning everyone even in Africa will be apart of it.

    It’s nothing to fear, just an energy/mindset to reject.

    man how can you follow this philology but then totally and completely not understand communism.

    what you're describing is still a system where a comparatively microscopic few own the means of production, just with more treats for the masses. in no way shape or form does this even begin to resemble communism. tbh it would do you good to actually read Capital as I do think you have the reading comprehension to handle the density of the text. reading marx's actual words will help elucidate a lot of the contradictions or misunderstandings you have.

    and even if things happen in the way you predict, why would you "agree with the politics", but still disavow the only means to prevent it from happening other than a total descent into barbarism. pacifism or even impotent posturing is essentially the exact same as a full endorsement.

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    americana

    Socialism is simply the concept of workers owning their labor and you can come to that conclusion however you’d like

    Marxism is the scientific process of such

    Exactly, and i agree with your distinction above that it's necessary for Marxism because those are fundamentals for that theory, but for just socialism, this kinda thinking seems to be elitist to me

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    slyTendencies

    Exactly, and i agree with your distinction above that it's necessary for Marxism because those are fundamentals for that theory, but for just socialism, this kinda thinking seems to be elitist to me

    It’s not elitist but a misunderstood definition

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    deadacc

    man how can you follow this philology but then totally and completely not understand communism.

    what you're describing is still a system where a comparatively microscopic few own the means of production, just with more treats for the masses. in no way shape or form does this even begin to resemble communism. tbh it would do you good to actually read Capital as I do think you have the reading comprehension to handle the density of the text. reading marx's actual words will help elucidate a lot of the contradictions or misunderstandings you have.

    and even if things happen in the way you predict, why would you "agree with the politics", but still disavow the only means to prevent it from happening other than a total descent into barbarism. pacifism or even impotent posturing is essentially the exact same as a full endorsement.

    Continue to help me understand bro so I'm not out here runnin w bs

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    americana

    It’s not elitist but a misunderstood definition

    But do you agree that sections of the left seem more interested in impressing people with their theoretical knowledge and vocabulary as opposed to educating others? You can have all the theory in the world but what good is it if your attitude chases beginners away

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    slyTendencies

    Someone on twitter (lol i know) tweeted that if you don't understand dialectical and historical materialism, then you're not a socialist. She then went on to post a YouTube audio book that talks about the concepts. I'm wondering what you guys think of this tendency of gatekeeping that exists on the left, Is it absolutely necessary for someone to have a deep understanding of all these concepts in order to "qualify" as a socialist?

    gatekeeping is good

    you don't necessarily need to have a deep understanding to support socialism, but without developing a revolutionary mindset yourself how can you expect to help others develop one.

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    slyTendencies

    But do you agree that sections of the left seem more interested in impressing people with their theoretical knowledge and vocabulary as opposed to educating others? You can have all the theory in the world but what good is it if your attitude chases beginners away

    yea that's pure liberalism if it is harming the capability of your movement to reach the masses.

    it's usually identified as an "ultra-left" tendency that i usually associate with the failed socialist movements of europe

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    deadacc

    gatekeeping is good

    you don't necessarily need to have a deep understanding to support socialism, but without developing a revolutionary mindset yourself how can you expect to help others develop one.

    I think yeah i agree to some extent that's it's necessary but these are not all straight forward concepts to grasp and at the end of the day if we're tryna help people, that process should be as least exclusionary as possible,

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    slyTendencies

    But do you agree that sections of the left seem more interested in impressing people with their theoretical knowledge and vocabulary as opposed to educating others? You can have all the theory in the world but what good is it if your attitude chases beginners away

    depends on the cadres absolutely on the masses that join red unions, and mass organisation no unless its a people school then they must be taught it, and other the DOTP it should absolutely be taught to the masses

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    Btw, neocolonialism: the last stage of imperialism is a brilliant book. Really enjoying my 3rd read through it

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    slyTendencies

    I think yeah i agree to some extent that's it's necessary but these are not all straight forward concepts to grasp and at the end of the day if we're tryna help people, that process should be as least exclusionary as possible,

    Mao has a lot of good s*** to say about this id recommend checking his s*** out

    he and his peers built one of the most important revolutions of our time in the middle of rural china facing overwhelming force. and many of the subsequent successes of socialism are based on his breakthroughs and understandings.

    "Meet the masses where they are at."

    marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/call-mass-line.htm