If twitterComs got off that bullshit site for ONE day we would’ve completed the revolution by tomorrow

if you've seen the type of people tweeting this stuff i don't know about that these are the same people too anxious to pick up the phone to order pizza

Liberating internet femboys

Imagine if China actually invested money into psyops on twitter and all that s***

@ARCADE_GOON F*** you say about Gonzalo thought

Dictatorships are good

When someone has absolute power over a country and is driven by ideology and love for the people they are incorruptible.

Western politicians have no ideology, they are ruled by donor groups and sometimes make minimal concessions to whatever is polling well with their constituents at the time. Meanwhile the constituents and voters don't know whats good for them because they are ruled by media who is financed by the same groups pouring money into electoral campaigns.

Western politicians are careerists, For them becoming President is a career and brand move.

The regime leader could of have sold out to NATO and international capital 1000 times over by now lived a comfy stress free life as a local pro western industry/business mogul... but they love their people and country too much.

You can't offer a bribe to a regime leader for a favour, because there is nothing someone could give him he couldn't procure for himself.

You can't lobby a regime leader with money they can spend on their election campaign. There are no elections the regime leader is the leader.

Regimes are the greatest form of governance.

Who havent Gonzaloists written polemics against?

PPW is not a universally applicable idea

Could you explain your thinking on why it isn't, not trying to start s*** just curious as to why you think so

Even if someone starts with good intentions the power will get to their head. Humans are flawed. If you think lifelong terms are okay i dont know what to tell ya. I could recommend some countries tho see if you be interested to move there. Contrary to popular belief people are lining up to migrate to countries with spureme leaders.

When was the last time a politician got corrupted by power? What does this even look like?

Politicians get corrupted by bribes from international capital

You meant to say a supreme leader instead of politician right?

You are changing the subject here

I am saying the more power the leader has the less they are susceptible to being corrupted

While leaders or politicians with less power who have to answer to lobbyists and voters are infinitely corruptible because they have to make compromises with groups who don't have the best interests of the people in mind so they can attain more power

Most examples of modern "dictators" ""ruining their country"" has nothing to do with "power going to their head" or "corruption"; this is a myth which has been perpetuated and is easily debunkable - the only dictators who do this are literally ones installed as puppets by foreign regimes.
"Organic" "dictators" have done far more to rapidly modernize countries and quality of living and (usually) reinforce cultural stability in a country than western democracies have done for their own internal communities. The issue is almost always with dictators that they die and the next person is insanely incompetent, or an aggressive hostile force (see: the US) undermines them because they're either isolated or still developing and then the country falls apart. Singularly centralized authoritative states tend to be massively popular and also incredibly efficient up until the US decides to deliver the drone strikes of freedom. Why do you think that dictator states that the US didn't intervene with managed to modernize so well or deliver such high qualities of life in short periods of time? Look at most NAM countries.

Lol @ the myth part

You are right tho dictators are different and some can be alright for a while.

Reza Shah was a dictator, Khamenei is a Dictator too.. Reza shah improved s*** Khamenei is even destroying the natural habitat... But even if Reza Shah had good intentions the power eventually went into his son's head didnt it? It's not a myth. Nothing good eventually comes out of Life-long terms long term.

Some guys claimed the PPW is not a literal war but just an abstract term for class struggle - in this case, why even use it? I argued with a Gonzaloist who told me the Yellow Vests in France was an example of PPW The Yellow Vests was a movement consisting of different political groups mostly about lowering gas taxes and against a few austerity measures like messing with retirement pensions. To call that a "PPW" is just so silly and far from the reality that it really becomes a useless term. To prove his point he showed me some demands a French Maoist group made. I mean sure I can make a lot of demands too, doesn't make it a mass movement nor does it make it a PPW.

Some guys see the PPW more literally in terms of a war fought with weapons and such. I am not one of the guys who say "any resistance is futile because they have drones bla bla bla", but you really have to ask if you're not shooting your wad prematurely once you take such radical actions. You have to have a mass basis for this. Mao had support from the peasantry at a time when China was really in trouble. As bad as things are in the first world, truthfully, most people are not gonna do anything like the PPW yet.

But as Lenin said, sometimes there are decades where nothing happens and weeks where decades happen. Our main goal in the first world should be just raising class consciousness and organizing politically with minimum goals of reform and maximum goals of systemic changes aka revolution. This also aligns with Marx and his party program he wrote for the French Worker's Party, which I assume to be the correct position. I would also add that party politics is just one realm, there should also be non-party politics, single-issue protests, labor organization and even social organization like sports clubs or book clubs or culture centers.

The Japanese Red Army and the German Red Army Fraction both set back the respective leftist movements in their country so far back that not only was their PPW useless but even outright harmful. I would argue that Shining Path was also pretty useless overall in Peru and that it even harmed leftism over there, so that people were accusing even Castillo of being a SP-guy, it kind of poisoned the well for many Marxists over there.

The Philippines is a bit different, but they are not Gonzaloists. I don't mind the CPP as much as I mind SP because they were able to build some real power and parallel structures even if they are currently in decline. The CPP does not think PPW is universally applicable and I have the same opinion.

Naxalites do some silly s*** too like attack other leftists but they are so small by now that they don't even really matter. I mean Shining Path is dead now too, which I'm not even sure if all western Gonzaloists realize.

The idea of PPW can be useful, guerilla warfare á la Che as well, but you have to have a certain base for it. Shining Path was never a mass movement, even though Gonzaloists claim it was, it didn't even have that much indigenous support later on.If you just do adventurism without a mass basis you are setting yourself up for failure, the Shining Path has been active for almost 40 to 50 years and didn't really amount to anything.

Now Gonzaloists will say "but the USSR collapsed too" but the USSR was able to have an actual state for a few decades, become a superpower, support anti-imperialism and introduce many parts of the worlds to communism. Remember that people like Mao would have not even found communism if it wasn't for the Russian socialists (Mao's first leftist theory he read was a translation of The ABC of Communism by Bukharin, Chinese translations of Marx weren't even really available by the time they founded the CPC, they just had Russian summaries of Marx translated into Chinese).

We shouldn't forget that leftist theory is now more easily accessible than ever thanks to the Internet.

They were countries were you couldn't just find Marx on any bookshelf because of censorship.

The early Chinese Communists had to rely on Chinese translations of Russian summaries of a German author.

Also more and more works were found and translated over the years. The Paris Manuscripts by Marx where he was trying to talk about alienation wasn't even found until 1932 and translated to English in 1959.
The German Ideology which talks a lot about base/superstructure and historical materialism was also found in 1932

There are more dictators which have done good for their country than bad - almost all dictators which were bad for their country were bad because they were only there due to foreign puppet governments or because they were undermined by global forces (the US). It literally is a myth unless you want to go back in time to talk about emperors like Nero. The whole idea of dictators being power hungry kings who are corrupted by power is literally a pathological myth which stems from religious traditions/folklore as well as the semi-theological status at which we hold ancient emperors and their associated mythology. When people want to point to modern dictators who fit this bill of Nero style pathologization the literal only people they point to are like Bokassa in CAR, Idi Amin in Uganda, or maybe the regime in Turkmenistan. Almost all of these styles of regimes were legitimized externally by other countries and forces rather than internally.

It's myth to you and a reality to others.
I think a good life experience for you would be to pick a country with a benevolent supreme leader and live and work there for a while, experience the myth and become a legend.

@ARCADE_GOON I don't think you ever said why the strategy of PPW isn't universal. You just said you'd heard dumb people misconstrue it. No real maoist gonzalo thought follower would say that the yellow vest movement is a ppw.

One of the main points of Maoism that separates it from other tendencies is the claim that Socialism can only be reached through a violent revolution. So protests would not be a ppw under any circumstance.

You seem to think that PPW just means that right now today everyone drops what they're doing and heads to the jungle and starts shooting the enemy. But that's obviously not what Maoists are doing right now. Maoists are focused on applying the mass line and raising the political consciousness of the masses. That involves mass orgs and things like book clubs.

Maoists don't claim the collapse of the USSR had anything to do with PPW, They all tell you it was due to the lack of a cultural revolution and removal of revisionists.

PPW is the most viable strategy in the modern world because their is no possible way for communists to just swallow a beast like the United States at once. It takes the slow building of red bases, education of the masses, only fighting battles when you know you can win and slowly you will turn the tables.

@ARCADE_GOON I don't always agree with Black Red Guard but he wrote a great summary on what PPW is.

"When Maoists say protracted people’s war, we aren’t referring to peasants surrounding the city from the countryside. There are no peasants in the United States, we ain’t running off to the mountains. People who advocate that as being PPW are either willfully misrepresenting or confused. We are discussing a process, a protracted process, that requires careful and thorough preparation over a period of years. A People’s Army does not just come into being overnight anymore than a Party worth its salt does overnight. Every process when we are discussing revolution is a long, drawn out, protracted one, rife with potholes, pitfalls, and setbacks, twists and turns. This is why insurrectionists, those who believe that we can simply resurrect the Bolshevik insurrection of 1917 (itself a process that was protracted, lasting almost 30 years), fall short."

Well fact is every Gonzaloist I spoke to except you seemed to be a giant retärd.

Of course socialism cannot be reached through mere reforms, however, this doesn't negate the necessity of reforms.

China was the birthplace of the cultural revolution and still turned revisionist right afterwards so I am not sure if that alone can help.

The "fighting battles" in the US sounds nice in theory but just ends up throwing red paint at DSA campus activists and putting pig heads in front of buildings and other goofy s***. A lot of it is just adventurism.

Gonzalo-Maoists don't have mass organizations in most countries. India? Naxalites don't even have mass bases in their parts of the country. At least Kerala has a communist party ruling. Phillipines? Not Gonzaloists. Peru? Shining Path is dead. Europe? Lol no. USA? No. Nepal? Not Gonzaloists.

The fact is most people have never even heard of Gonzalo, not even most leftists. I am sure a lot of the recent stuff comes from Gonzalo dying. If Pol Pot died 1 month ago you would see these Twitter activists simping for them.

Another thing Gonzaloists love to do is show graffitis or little protests with 5 people and say "the masses are accepting Gonzalo thought", there are entire leftypol threads like this. Their newest line is that Brazil is doing a mass PPW, which isn't even true. They just inflate their numbers and also claim movements they don't even lead just like anarchists love to claim Chiapas and Rojava for themselves: leftypol.org/leftypol/res/609832.html

No one is arguing that everything dictators do is divinely good and solely ontologically virtuous nor is anyone arguing that life in countries with dictators is some type of paradise or heaven. However you also cannot blame everything bad on a dictator especially with regimes over long periods of time tend to produce net goods for their citizens with the resources they have. Is it the fault of a dictator to be caught amid geopolitical tensions and violence encouraged by foreign forces or imperialism or colonialism?
This is just like the dumb debate about child labor in China vs US with that guy in the pants-on-head-stupid squid game thread where by masking our problems in the west with media sensationalism and semantics we've made quality of life across classes and demographics seem far better than it actually is.
There are equivalently terrible things that happen in the majority of first world countries to many of these "dictatorships" once you strip out the geopolitical violence of which a very small percentage of them are responsible for to begin with. If you had to choose though, where would you rather live if you were just above the poverty line? The bad parts of Detroit or Damascus in Syria? Would you rather live in central Camden NJ or Stalin's Moscow? This isn't even a left wing thing solely. I'd rather live in Lisbon under Salazar than most of St Louis.

i think his points of the RAF and the other one of Maoist having ultra leftist leanings at points which i do agree with (not saying Maoist are ultra leftist) like the third worldist danish group that started robbing banks to help support the palestinian struggle, which is guess i gotta respect it for trying something lol, but often these groups are denounced by Maoist as well for being ultra leftist.

Just like Maoist have a tendency to turn ultra leftist, i can see the exact opposite with ML being right opportunist like the canadian communist party which claims to be ML being glorified soc dems and don’t even advocate for revolution, which i guess u can be hiding ur “power level” but that’s the nicest explanation i can give for them.

Though what are more harmful ? Stalin in right opportunist an old man’s disease or whatever said right opportunist was more harmful if i remember correctly (correct me if i’m wrong) but of course we can’t just say cause Stalin said so, and just from a shallow a***ysis that i’m doing right now it does seem ultra left adventurism is more harmful thought i don’t think any Gonzalo group is committing right now, other than the attacks on DSA by the austin red guards, which is like the lowest level of adventurism possible.