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  • Jul 12, 2021

    it was a line crossed when homeboy said “none of you ITT are socialists”

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    it’s like.,, okay yeah we just espouse these ideas keep up with socialist happenings around the world and study the history and look at things through a socialist/ML/Maoist lens or whatever specific area we gravitate toward

  • Jul 12, 2021
    spongebob

    it’s like.,, okay yeah we just espouse these ideas keep up with socialist happenings around the world and study the history and look at things through a socialist/ML/Maoist lens or whatever specific area we gravitate toward

    we're already on the list
    it don't matter
    I see an Indonesia 1955 coming to US in our lifetime

  • Jul 12, 2021

    imagine the 50s in the US when if you just hate somebody u can accuse them of being a communist and they’ll go straight to jail.

    people could do that s*** if they don’t like u and get u outta here

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    they locked up some protesters from the PSL though...

    idk if it was at the elijah mcclain demonstrations or what tho

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    been seeing a lot of ppl on socials repost stuff putting the cuban “communist dictatorship” at fault and brushing off the embargo (aint claiming the gov doesn't bear some faults for certain things but disregarding the embargo makes this posturing people are doing online so incomplete)

    i had a pretty good convo with this cuban person i went to school with but she said she can’t send money to family anymore and that s*** is bad for them rn regardless

    Also is weird if the pres. called for people to take to the streets / that type of action reminds me of a former us pres i know

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    also selfishly wish there was an actual photo of lenin above stalin ITT because socialism at large i think benefited greater from lenin,

    And as I understand them at this point--Stalin’s achievements (if so granted as such), are more to do with specifically USSR development as a state, and victory in WW2 over Nazis, etc... i guess we could take it there if we’re using war as examples for things, but it isn’t the most compelling of angles to take.

  • Jul 13, 2021

    i think i’m just a bit stoned rambling i’m interested to see what y’all are picking up on the topic of cuba or haiti as well... the simultaneous-ness of the two things is peculiar at least

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    also selfishly wish there was an actual photo of lenin above stalin ITT because socialism at large i think benefited greater from lenin,

    And as I understand them at this point--Stalin’s achievements (if so granted as such), are more to do with specifically USSR development as a state, and victory in WW2 over Nazis, etc... i guess we could take it there if we’re using war as examples for things, but it isn’t the most compelling of angles to take.

    i cant understnad this paragraph

  • Jul 13, 2021
    space0cadet

    i cant understnad this paragraph

    I'm editing it to make more sense

    u catching me in between edits and copy and pasting s*** lmao

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    they locked up some protesters from the PSL though...

    idk if it was at the elijah mcclain demonstrations or what tho

    locked up, raided frso members houses and arrested them in 2009 too

    like even though the left in the us is p small, actions are still taken against them :/

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    locked up, raided frso members houses and arrested them in 2009 too

    like even though the left in the us is p small, actions are still taken against them :/

    do u think these seemingly newer groups just keep taking from the former incarnations of socialist organizations or are they different enough to distinguish them greatly?

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    also selfishly wish there was an actual photo of lenin above stalin ITT because socialism at large i think benefited greater from lenin,

    And as I understand them at this point--Stalin’s achievements (if so granted as such), are more to do with specifically USSR development as a state, and victory in WW2 over Nazis, etc... i guess we could take it there if we’re using war as examples for things, but it isn’t the most compelling of angles to take.

    tbh im getting tired of talking about lenin/stalin/mao because i feel like they barely apply to our current situation, its outdated; we aren't colonial anymore, these tools don't work.

    more interested in reading nkrumah/toure/cabral because of their pivotal works on neocolonialism

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    do u think these seemingly newer groups just keep taking from the former incarnations of socialist organizations or are they different enough to distinguish them greatly?

    i mean the divide between theory and praxis is meaningless because who the f*** cares about what your stance of china right now is when you live in the U.S. and all you can materially change is what is in your neighborhood, right

    they're all the same to me. except dsa, dsa is too revisionist.

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    tbh im getting tired of talking about lenin/stalin/mao because i feel like they barely apply to our current situation, its outdated; we aren't colonial anymore, these tools don't work.

    more interested in reading nkrumah/toure/cabral because of their pivotal works on neocolonialism

    I can fw this perspective on some level, but I'm still truly trying to understand those three people for myself, so I can't quite move on at this point imo

    I think I gotta read more lenin and study some of Mao's history and stuff before I feel comfortable leaving some of those things behind

    That being said there is so many regions of the world where these ideas experience both different successes, and different obstacles to where it's overwhelming

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    i mean the divide between theory and praxis is meaningless because who the f*** cares about what your stance of china right now is when you live in the U.S. and all you can materially change is what is in your neighborhood, right

    they're all the same to me. except dsa, dsa is too revisionist.

    i feel u on the dsa for sure but i mean if im always talking about "unity on the left" then I gotta still keep a place in my heart (albeit very limited) for them cause it could bring more people in to a grander view of socialism,

    Also I see what you're saying, I'm trying to find out a lot of what is going on locally in my state right now,

    been basically talking with anyone I can when situations or conversations present themselves,

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    space0cadet

    yo look at this s***

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Slavic_Forces_of_Russia

    tf even is this? a FB group?

  • Jul 13, 2021

    “Anti-Americanism, 5G misinformation” as ideology

  • Jul 13, 2021
    spongebob

    I can fw this perspective on some level, but I'm still truly trying to understand those three people for myself, so I can't quite move on at this point imo

    I think I gotta read more lenin and study some of Mao's history and stuff before I feel comfortable leaving some of those things behind

    That being said there is so many regions of the world where these ideas experience both different successes, and different obstacles to where it's overwhelming

    yeah i mean i haven't really dived deep into lenin and mao, ive read their "greatest hits", but like

    obviously they made great contributions to marxism, and MOST applies to today, but just like fanon did you have to stretch marxism . (you still need the BASIS of marxism though to stretch)

    however, the material conditions are invetiably different during our time

    like one thing i didnt know is when nasser nationalized the suez canal in like the 50's the french, britiain and israel went balls deep in that b**** to colonize em

    then the US LITERALLY ALLIED WITH THE USSR to stop them because they'd rather keep them as a NEOCOLONIAL subject

    s*** is insane the neoliberalization of everything has confused everyone

  • Jul 13, 2021
    spongebob

    tf even is this? a FB group?

    basically a sovereign citizen movement

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    i feel u on the dsa for sure but i mean if im always talking about "unity on the left" then I gotta still keep a place in my heart (albeit very limited) for them cause it could bring more people in to a grander view of socialism,

    Also I see what you're saying, I'm trying to find out a lot of what is going on locally in my state right now,

    been basically talking with anyone I can when situations or conversations present themselves,

    ya i mean i was a liberal for most of my life
    most people are
    but at the same time liberalization is what kills any social movement, literally look at what happened to BLM

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    or like even the black panthers, MLK they defang their revolutionary edge and put them on a hallmark card

  • Jul 13, 2021
    space0cadet

    or like even the black panthers, MLK they defang their revolutionary edge and put them on a hallmark card

    MLK himself still had fangs enough for him to be assassinated and/or harassed by the government but if you’re strictly referring to the co-opting of his image as a “stop fighting” kind of limited interpretation of him... and yeah that makes me think about how i wonder how many people their act of rebellion is just watching meaningful things in movies or reposting online and it stays that. as if that’s good enough.

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    space0cadet

    or like even the black panthers, MLK they defang their revolutionary edge and put them on a hallmark card

    i be thinking about the black panthers free breakfast thing all the time for some reason