Happy Tiananmen square non event day!
It wasn’t a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist/free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalization and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times’ death count went from 2600, to 8000, then to tens of thousands. In reality, only around 300 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled in smaller clashes outside the square.
liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt
Deng Xiaoping was ill at the time, and the CIA had a man inside the party, Zhao Ziyang, dubbed “China’s Gorbachev”, who promised to open the door to market liberalization if the protest movement had succeeded like those in Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Georgia, and the USSR.
leohezhao.medium.com/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2
Student protests were funded by the “National Endowment for Democracy” (NED), an NGO fueled by the U.S. State Department and founded by former CIA members. NED has involved itself in numerous regime-change ventures around the world in the effort to dismantle leftist governments through funding internal revolution and misinformation campaigns.
thegrayzone.com/2018/08/20/inside-americas-meddling-machine-the-us-funded-group-that-interferes-in-elections-around-the-globe
The protest movement followed the line of “color revolutions” in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in Eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without by inundating the media with news of massacres of “peaceful”, pro-capitalist/market reformers.
fightbacknews.org/2019/6/4/reflections-tiananmen-square-and-attempt-end-chinese-socialism
The Chinese Communist Party did not deny the incident and the deaths that occurred, nor did they hide the incident from the public. They held a press conference on national television two days after the incident occurred where they openly admitted the actions that took place, the estimated casualties, and the political motives involved.
imgur.com/a/Wqq19Q6
An on-scene Washington Post reporter disavowed his own article for its lies and lack of journalistic integrity, especially regarding the alleged machine-gunning of protesters.
archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
yeah shame he wasnt as lucky as the many others who died
It wasn’t a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist/free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalization and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times’ death count went from 2600, to 8000, then to tens of thousands. In reality, only around 300 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled in smaller clashes outside the square.
https://www.liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt/
Deng Xiaoping was ill at the time, and the CIA had a man inside the party, Zhao Ziyang, dubbed “China’s Gorbachev”, who promised to open the door to market liberalization if the protest movement had succeeded like those in Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Georgia, and the USSR.
https://leohezhao.medium.com/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2
Student protests were funded by the “National Endowment for Democracy” (NED), an NGO fueled by the U.S. State Department and founded by former CIA members. NED has involved itself in numerous regime-change ventures around the world in the effort to dismantle leftist governments through funding internal revolution and misinformation campaigns.
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/20/inside-americas-meddling-machine-the-us-funded-group-that-interferes-in-elections-around-the-globe/
The protest movement followed the line of “color revolutions” in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in Eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without by inundating the media with news of massacres of “peaceful”, pro-capitalist/market reformers.
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2019/6/4/reflections-tiananmen-square-and-attempt-end-chinese-socialism
The Chinese Communist Party did not deny the incident and the deaths that occurred, nor did they hide the incident from the public. They held a press conference on national television two days after the incident occurred where they openly admitted the actions that took place, the estimated casualties, and the political motives involved.
https://imgur.com/a/Wqq19Q6
An on-scene Washington Post reporter disavowed his own article for its lies and lack of journalistic integrity, especially regarding the alleged machine-gunning of protesters.
https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
theres no reason to trust these sources any more than there is to trust new york times, espeically grayzone
theres no reason to trust these sources any more than there is to trust new york times, espeically grayzone
what about the leak from internal US state department sources that confirm there were no killings in the square?
what about the leak from internal US state department sources that confirm there were no killings in the square?
can u link
wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
i noticed it right after the message lol mb
I gave up on socialism. Ive lowkey turned conservative, out of the two choices at least conservatives don’t pretend that they are progressive like liberals
I gave up on socialism. Ive lowkey turned conservative, out of the two choices at least conservatives don’t pretend that they are progressive like liberals
So then leave the thread?
Anyone else itt a Maoist? We lost Sinewave
I still dont necessarily understand what makes maoism distinct
I still dont necessarily understand what makes maoism distinct
irrelevant grandstanding at that point
So then leave the thread?
First time I posted here, was trying to see if I’m just bugging and I’m wrong
First time I posted here, was trying to see if I’m just bugging and I’m wrong
Wrong about what
Because obviously conservativism is wrong lol and if you got there from socialism then idk if you were ever a socialist or your convictions just that weak