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  • Jun 5, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Happy Tiananmen square non event day!

  • Jun 5, 2021
    master chief

    what do you think happened there

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    sinophobia on ktt is crazy

  • Jun 5, 2021
    Donahuekirb

    sinophobia on ktt is crazy

    Synophobia

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  • Jun 5, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Happy Tiananmen square non event day!

    It wasn’t a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist/free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalization and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times’ death count went from 2600, to 8000, then to tens of thousands. In reality, only around 300 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled in smaller clashes outside the square.
    liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt

    Deng Xiaoping was ill at the time, and the CIA had a man inside the party, Zhao Ziyang, dubbed “China’s Gorbachev”, who promised to open the door to market liberalization if the protest movement had succeeded like those in Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Georgia, and the USSR.
    leohezhao.medium.com/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2

    Student protests were funded by the “National Endowment for Democracy” (NED), an NGO fueled by the U.S. State Department and founded by former CIA members. NED has involved itself in numerous regime-change ventures around the world in the effort to dismantle leftist governments through funding internal revolution and misinformation campaigns.
    thegrayzone.com/2018/08/20/inside-americas-meddling-machine-the-us-funded-group-that-interferes-in-elections-around-the-globe

    The protest movement followed the line of “color revolutions” in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in Eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without by inundating the media with news of massacres of “peaceful”, pro-capitalist/market reformers.
    fightbacknews.org/2019/6/4/reflections-tiananmen-square-and-attempt-end-chinese-socialism

    The Chinese Communist Party did not deny the incident and the deaths that occurred, nor did they hide the incident from the public. They held a press conference on national television two days after the incident occurred where they openly admitted the actions that took place, the estimated casualties, and the political motives involved.
    imgur.com/a/Wqq19Q6

    An on-scene Washington Post reporter disavowed his own article for its lies and lack of journalistic integrity, especially regarding the alleged machine-gunning of protesters.
    archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

    A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
    wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

  • Synopsis
    https://twitter.com/whoiszhu/status/1400950918464561156

    yeah shame he wasnt as lucky as the many others who died

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    deadacc

    It wasn’t a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist/free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalization and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times’ death count went from 2600, to 8000, then to tens of thousands. In reality, only around 300 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled in smaller clashes outside the square.
    https://www.liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt/

    Deng Xiaoping was ill at the time, and the CIA had a man inside the party, Zhao Ziyang, dubbed “China’s Gorbachev”, who promised to open the door to market liberalization if the protest movement had succeeded like those in Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Georgia, and the USSR.
    https://leohezhao.medium.com/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2

    Student protests were funded by the “National Endowment for Democracy” (NED), an NGO fueled by the U.S. State Department and founded by former CIA members. NED has involved itself in numerous regime-change ventures around the world in the effort to dismantle leftist governments through funding internal revolution and misinformation campaigns.
    https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/20/inside-americas-meddling-machine-the-us-funded-group-that-interferes-in-elections-around-the-globe/

    The protest movement followed the line of “color revolutions” in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in Eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without by inundating the media with news of massacres of “peaceful”, pro-capitalist/market reformers.
    http://www.fightbacknews.org/2019/6/4/reflections-tiananmen-square-and-attempt-end-chinese-socialism

    The Chinese Communist Party did not deny the incident and the deaths that occurred, nor did they hide the incident from the public. They held a press conference on national television two days after the incident occurred where they openly admitted the actions that took place, the estimated casualties, and the political motives involved.
    https://imgur.com/a/Wqq19Q6

    An on-scene Washington Post reporter disavowed his own article for its lies and lack of journalistic integrity, especially regarding the alleged machine-gunning of protesters.
    https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

    A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

    theres no reason to trust these sources any more than there is to trust new york times, espeically grayzone

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    theres no reason to trust these sources any more than there is to trust new york times, espeically grayzone

    what about the leak from internal US state department sources that confirm there were no killings in the square?

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    deadacc

    what about the leak from internal US state department sources that confirm there were no killings in the square?

    can u link

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    americana

    can u link

    wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

  • Jun 5, 2021
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    deadacc

    wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

    i noticed it right after the message lol mb

  • Jun 5, 2021
    americana

    i noticed it right after the message lol mb

    np all good brother

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  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Anyone else itt a Maoist? We lost Sinewave

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    I gave up on socialism. Ive lowkey turned conservative, out of the two choices at least conservatives don’t pretend that they are progressive like liberals

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Changeofheart

    I gave up on socialism. Ive lowkey turned conservative, out of the two choices at least conservatives don’t pretend that they are progressive like liberals

    So then leave the thread?

  • Jun 6, 2021

    Like what lol

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Cudderwalks

    Anyone else itt a Maoist? We lost Sinewave

    I still dont necessarily understand what makes maoism distinct

  • Jun 6, 2021
    Synopsis

    I still dont necessarily understand what makes maoism distinct

    irrelevant grandstanding at that point

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Synopsis

    So then leave the thread?

    First time I posted here, was trying to see if I’m just bugging and I’m wrong

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Changeofheart

    First time I posted here, was trying to see if I’m just bugging and I’m wrong

    Wrong about what

  • Jun 6, 2021

    Because obviously conservativism is wrong lol and if you got there from socialism then idk if you were ever a socialist or your convictions just that weak

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Synopsis

    Wrong about what

    I would like socialism, but out of conservative and liberal I’m leaning conservative