this is just general anti communist bullshit from the Whites during the Civil War, Trotsky was still in good graces in 1919
this is just general anti communist bullshit from the Whites during the Civil War, Trotsky was still in good graces in 1919
I'm aware, Communist propaganda isn't this racist. Its funny how the Whites tried to play up the supposed differences of the Bolsheviks by making Trotsky a Jewish caricature and the executioner's look Chinese (idk why they're brown in that tweet). Really a timeless trope from Fascists
Happy liberation day to the Ukrainian people! May they be freed from the yoke of capitalism once again, inshallah!
"I'll put this in video game terms"
Broski you got no other choice!
Marxist-Leninist stock exchange
some of this overcorrective pro china posting been on a new other level of dumb
some of this overcorrective pro china posting been on a new other level of dumb
Half my timeline is just stuff like this now smh
#TaxTheRich
https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/1982591593430581444eradicate billionaires
Marxist-Leninist stock exchange
Tbh Lenin talked about the necessity to nationalize the banks (the impending catastrophe) and Marx talked about the need to control finance in a way that would link Bourgeois interests to the revolution (demands of the German workers party)
A “Marxist-Leninist” stock exchange may be a contradictory concept, but it is not an irrational one; and approaching contradictory places is how we can untangle capitalism and develop socialism
A “communist” stock exchange is something both contradictory and irrational
Tbh Lenin talked about the necessity to nationalize the banks (the impending catastrophe) and Marx talked about the need to control finance in a way that would link Bourgeois interests to the revolution (demands of the German workers party)
A “Marxist-Leninist” stock exchange may be a contradictory concept, but it is not an irrational one; and approaching contradictory places is how we can untangle capitalism and develop socialism
A “communist” stock exchange is something both contradictory and irrational
Describing China's stock exchange as "Marxist-Leninist", even if one is a revisionist and believes that China is still ML, is nevertheless complete nonsense. It's equally absurd to suggest that there is such a thing as Marxist-Leninist billionaires or a Marxist-Leninist free market. There's a difference between A) straight up capitalist restoration and revisionism (what Dengists advocate for) and B) temporary concessions/market reforms implemented in a devastated post-war economy, such as the NEP.
Describing China's stock exchange as "Marxist-Leninist", even if one is a revisionist and believes that China is still ML, is nevertheless complete nonsense. It's equally absurd to suggest that there is such a thing as Marxist-Leninist billionaires or a Marxist-Leninist free market. There's a difference between A) straight up capitalist restoration and revisionism (what Dengists advocate for) and B) temporary concessions/market reforms implemented in a devastated post-war economy, such as the NEP.
I don’t think the Chinese market is free and I don’t think there are ML billionaires
I simply think that the stock exchange, being an organ of economy, can exist under the control of an ML party without it being revisionist or restorationist.
I don’t think there’s a restoration of capitalism going on in China, at least not anymore. If anything the position of private capital continues to be reduced on a day by day basis
I don’t think the Chinese market is free and I don’t think there are ML billionaires
I simply think that the stock exchange, being an organ of economy, can exist under the control of an ML party without it being revisionist or restorationist.
I don’t think there’s a restoration of capitalism going on in China, at least not anymore. If anything the position of private capital continues to be reduced on a day by day basis
I simply think that the stock exchange, being an organ of economy, can exist under the control of an ML party without it being revisionist or restorationist.
Fair enough, referring to said stock exchange as an ML stock exchange simply because it exists in a state ruled by an ML party is silly though. It's like calling a private enterprise in 1920s USSR a "Marxist Leninist private enterprise"
What are the takeaways from Zohran's victory? We shouldn't act like his win is something it isn't, but I think this moment should be reflected on to see where the masses are at.
Zohran centring his campaign around real material issues with clear, popular solutions (of course people want rent freezes) allowed him to organize ~1 million people. In addition, he did this without capitulating on Israel to the extent Bernie/AOC have. Of course, he did fold on “globalize the intifada” and condemned Palestinian resistance, which is obviously disgusting.
For comrades that are anti-electoralism and disappointed by Zohran's success, how will his victory disrupt the kind of organizing you do (or want to do)? Do you think people are going to be less receptive to propaganda, direct action, tenant unions, etc. because there’s a self-proclaimed demsoc as mayor in Amerikkkas largest city? The dangerous aspect of Zohran types is that it gives people false confidence in electoralism, though I don’t fully buy the narrative that it's a zero sum game, meaning that having Zohran as mayor will lead to fewer people getting organized in non-electoral ways. I don’t think it would be easier to build power had Adams/Cuomo won, or that Zohran is necessarily sapping revolutionary energy away from Amerikkkas nonexistent vanguard party.
How can Communists demonstrate the limitations of electoralism and draw people into their ranks without castigating the masses for being excited about Zohran? How can you build on his campaigns momentum and show people that the work doesn’t end here?
It's also wild to see the reach Zohran's had across the world
A***ysis on him from the Tehran times: x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1986150337258889494
Hezbollah’s TV station ran a segment on him talking about his anti-Israel views: x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1985905568708509839
Random people in Cuba talking about him: x.com/bellybeastcuba/status/1986509662586331378
Multiple CPI(M🤮) cadres are celebrating him and he has some BJP leaders in shambles lmao
What other politician in the West has had motion like this
What are the takeaways from Zohran's victory? We shouldn't act like his win is something it isn't, but I think this moment should be reflected on to see where the masses are at.
Zohran centring his campaign around real material issues with clear, popular solutions (of course people want rent freezes) allowed him to organize ~1 million people. In addition, he did this without capitulating on Israel to the extent Bernie/AOC have. Of course, he did fold on “globalize the intifada” and condemned Palestinian resistance, which is obviously disgusting.
For comrades that are anti-electoralism and disappointed by Zohran's success, how will his victory disrupt the kind of organizing you do (or want to do)? Do you think people are going to be less receptive to propaganda, direct action, tenant unions, etc. because there’s a self-proclaimed demsoc as mayor in Amerikkkas largest city? The dangerous aspect of Zohran types is that it gives people false confidence in electoralism, though I don’t fully buy the narrative that it's a zero sum game, meaning that having Zohran as mayor will lead to fewer people getting organized in non-electoral ways. I don’t think it would be easier to build power had Adams/Cuomo won, or that Zohran is necessarily sapping revolutionary energy away from Amerikkkas nonexistent vanguard party.
How can Communists demonstrate the limitations of electoralism and draw people into their ranks without castigating the masses for being excited about Zohran? How can you build on his campaigns momentum and show people that the work doesn’t end here?
https://twitter.com/catisinthebag_/status/1986059345734533441Not a lot of useful takeaways in terms of socialism but a lot of takeaways in terms of American politics and political discourse. Contrasting this with Omar Fateh losing in Minneapolis is probably interesting in terms of voter and rhetoric discourse
What are the takeaways from Zohran's victory? We shouldn't act like his win is something it isn't, but I think this moment should be reflected on to see where the masses are at.
Zohran centring his campaign around real material issues with clear, popular solutions (of course people want rent freezes) allowed him to organize ~1 million people. In addition, he did this without capitulating on Israel to the extent Bernie/AOC have. Of course, he did fold on “globalize the intifada” and condemned Palestinian resistance, which is obviously disgusting.
For comrades that are anti-electoralism and disappointed by Zohran's success, how will his victory disrupt the kind of organizing you do (or want to do)? Do you think people are going to be less receptive to propaganda, direct action, tenant unions, etc. because there’s a self-proclaimed demsoc as mayor in Amerikkkas largest city? The dangerous aspect of Zohran types is that it gives people false confidence in electoralism, though I don’t fully buy the narrative that it's a zero sum game, meaning that having Zohran as mayor will lead to fewer people getting organized in non-electoral ways. I don’t think it would be easier to build power had Adams/Cuomo won, or that Zohran is necessarily sapping revolutionary energy away from Amerikkkas nonexistent vanguard party.
How can Communists demonstrate the limitations of electoralism and draw people into their ranks without castigating the masses for being excited about Zohran? How can you build on his campaigns momentum and show people that the work doesn’t end here?
https://twitter.com/catisinthebag_/status/1986059345734533441dude got elected on the strength of promised working class concessions which has little to do with anything socialist aside from his usage of keywords. i dont doubt that american political youth has just as much interest in american political theater as anyone before them, so they just got another piece of political farce served for their delight
It's also wild to see the reach Zohran's had across the world
A***ysis on him from the Tehran times: https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1986150337258889494
Hezbollah’s TV station ran a segment on him talking about his anti-Israel views: https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1985905568708509839
Random people in Cuba talking about him: https://x.com/bellybeastcuba/status/1986509662586331378
Multiple CPI(M🤮) cadres are celebrating him and he has some BJP leaders in shambles lmao
https://twitter.com/TheSiasatDaily/status/1986323247429009423What other politician in the West has had motion like this
this is the most cringeworthy part of it all probably
dude got elected on the strength of promised working class concessions which has little to do with anything socialist aside from his usage of keywords. i dont doubt that american political youth has just as much interest in american political theater as anyone before them, so they just got another piece of political farce served for their delight
dude got elected on the strength of promised working class concessions
You're leaving out his positions towards Israel, which are not great yet still distinguish him from other demsoc/progressive libs in the West and are a MAJOR reason he got elected. Even if he doesn't follow through on his pledge to arrest Netanyahu, the sentiment is very strong by Amerikkkan standards.
As far as how it relates to socialists, yes Zohran is not a Communist, but he's still very relevant for us to pay attention to if you care about growing the movement. Regardless of how we feel about him, him and his party self identify as socialists and he enjoys mass support right now. When many of Zohran's supporters inevitably end up feeling let down and disillusioned by politics/"socialism", whether its due to structural barriers he encounters or his own capitulation to the right, Communists have to be there to offer a revolutionary alternative that inspires hope (and not the kind of blind hope you get by thinking one guy is going to save you). Without any alternative to voting, many people will just become disillusioned and withdrawn from politics altogether. I don't doubt "Zohran-lites" will pop up across Western cities after seeing his success, so it's an important moment to understand even for those of us who are not living in NYC/the US.
To link oneself with the masses, one must act in accordance with the needs and wishes of the masses. All work done for the masses must start from their needs and not from the desire of any individual, however well-intentioned. It often happens that objectively the masses need a certain change, but subjectively they are not yet conscious of the need, not yet willing or determined to make the change. In such cases, we should wait patiently. We should not make the change until, through our work, most of the masses have become conscious of the need and are willing and determined to carry it out. Otherwise we shall isolate ourselves from the masses. Unless they are conscious and willing, any kind of work that requires their participation will turn out to be a mere formality and will fail.... There are two principles here: one is the actual needs of the masses rather than what we fancy they need, and the other is the wishes of the masses, who must make up their own minds instead of our making up their minds for them.