I feel you, people like Max Blumenthal whos whole idealogy is anti-Western imperialism but they're still not Communists. Lame!

Don't deflect from the fact you insulted me for no reason

I've been in enough marxist communities to know there's a correlation

its the opposite, people call themselves "marxists" and then dont do the work of self-criticism or purging themselves of their liberal ideology. marxism instead exists as a means of "filling in the gaps" of liberalism which would normally be filled by conspiracies. thats how you wind up with people like that.

it was always funny to me how western marxist communities are so balls deep in respectability and its variations almost universally. personally im not gonna divorce anyone over being either wrong or not presenting their position eloquently enough. maybe thats just the nature of a lot of these communities being club-like organizations

This would be solved by them reading combat liberalism. They shouldn't make frivolous critiques of their comrades

That text doesn’t really have a lot to do with liberal ideology that much, just liberal behaviors in organizing

mao was writing for a pretty specific audience of chinese cadres, americans need to do much more reading than a two page document. what @PhilipMorris said basically.

Thats not what I implied. And I know what this text is about I read it. I'm saying making frivolous critiques of comrades is a form of liberalism mentioned

Mao we critiquing liberalism in orgsnizing. Which includes being a d*** for no reason, instead of making an educated critique

yes I know, I'm saying the two things are connected (retaining liberalism in your ideology and acting as a liberal in practice). but the former is primary and Mao doesnt really get into it in Combat Liberalism.

Snowboy was talking about how liberalism still infects certain “Marxists” worldview. You said this problem could be solved by reading Combat Liberalism. Now you’re making a completey different point. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, I’m merely responding to the claim you made

That's what I was trying to say basically. Behaving as a liberal means acting halfheartedly in your party and only contributing in a way that benefits you. An example of this would be the guy insulting me which is what my original post was about

Like the other guy said a liberal worldview and acting as a liberal in practice go hand in hand

Ooooh you know there’s some powerful energies being messed with when the “you’re acting liberal” card gets played

I completely disagree with the "anti respectability" behave like a normal person. Talk to people with respect. This is the only way to get anything done as a human

The communist party was the first to fold 😭 and not even all of them just one of the leaders the dumb one

this is called tone policing bro. "respectability" and "politeness" always come at the expense of other people, communist parties have no room for such nonsense.

you are too concerned with words and appearances. just dont call my mom a hoe off rip and we'll figure out the rest in the process

I don't really care what its called. Its what separates us from animals

No. I'm concerned with someone being a constructive part of the movement

yall wouldn't survive 15 minutes in a room with Lenin he'd turn you into a social democrat in 10 and then spent another 5 talking s*** about thirty other people

Constructive participation can be muffled by not telling people the hard truth when they’re wrong for the sake of “respectability”

ive been thinking about this during my time at encampment

Tone policing, respectable language, and the like was a massive facet in our internal politics

Especially considering the encampment was a number of first year rookie participants and lib-anarchist hippies