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  • Dec 20, 2022
    fun guy

    Deng: "The mainland will maintain the socialist system and not turn off onto the wrong road, the road to capitalism. One of the features distinguishing socialism from capitalism is that socialism means common prosperity, not polarization of income. The wealth created belongs first to the state and second to the people; it is therefore impossible for a new bourgeoisie to emerge. The amount that goes to the state will be spent for the benefit of the people, a small portion being used to strengthen national defence and the rest to develop the economy, education and science and to raise the people’s living standards and cultural level."


  • Dec 20, 2022
    fun guy

    got any links be interested to read that

    also ur probably right about the Jiang Qing incident with Sun Weishi i cant find any real evidence. but i think she was killed and allegedly cremated before an autopsy could be done

    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-9/mswv9_81.htm

    for the dialogues with the red guards

    found something amusing with his needs to defend rebels he does the same thing in his interview with his nephew or niece where he start lecturing her for not breaking the rules

    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-9/mswv9_87.htm

  • Dec 20, 2022
    fun guy

    Deng: "The mainland will maintain the socialist system and not turn off onto the wrong road, the road to capitalism. One of the features distinguishing socialism from capitalism is that socialism means common prosperity, not polarization of income. The wealth created belongs first to the state and second to the people; it is therefore impossible for a new bourgeoisie to emerge. The amount that goes to the state will be spent for the benefit of the people, a small portion being used to strengthen national defence and the rest to develop the economy, education and science and to raise the people’s living standards and cultural level."


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    Womanpuncher69
    https://twitter.com/ibeat1477/status/1604842745658572802

    this show was the goat

  • Dec 20, 2022
    krishna bound

    this show was the goat

    Same stock sound as Jimmy Dore show

  • Dec 20, 2022
    Womanpuncher69
    https://twitter.com/ibeat1477/status/1604842745658572802

    man I need to rewatch Xavier lol

    crazy ass s***

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    SCHIZOWARSFUR trying to post tweets about Afghanistan and Iran in the Meg/Tory thread

  • Dec 20, 2022
    Sir Real

    SCHIZOWARSFUR trying to post tweets about Afghanistan and Iran in the Meg/Tory thread

    Deadass?

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    Sir Real

    SCHIZOWARSFUR trying to post tweets about Afghanistan and Iran in the Meg/Tory thread

    i saw that and thought i was hallucinating

  • Dec 20, 2022
    krishna bound

    i saw that and thought i was hallucinating

    Convinced him and that other dude are regime bots paid to pose as diaspora to make the opposition seem as annoying and idiotic as possible

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    Sir Real

    SCHIZOWARSFUR trying to post tweets about Afghanistan and Iran in the Meg/Tory thread

    I refuse to believe that’s not also Franquito

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    p apollo

    I refuse to believe that’s not also Franquito

    maybe we're all Franquito

  • Dec 20, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    maybe we're all Franquito

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    Gramsci notes on italian history really got me interested in reading about the history of the development of capitalism now

  • Dec 20, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    Gramsci notes on italian history really got me interested in reading about the history of the development of capitalism now

    Never heard of this guy but just looked him up and these prison notebooks sound incredible

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    Womanpuncher69

    https://comandanteghoul.github.io/vanguardvaluesreclaimed/results.html?v1=68.8&v3=78.1&v5=31.3&v7=75.0&v9=40.6&v11=40.6&v13=28.1&v15=46.9

    Yeah I'm a Centrist

  • Dec 21, 2022
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    Are there any people worse than the british? Even Americans aren't this deranged

  • Dec 21, 2022
    Lein

    Are there any people worse than the british? Even Americans aren't this deranged

    https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1605243990814916608

    the frogs are up there with them as well

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    what was the ideology of Imperial Japan, especially during WW2? i can somewhat understand the ideology of the Nazis, and their motivation behind WW2, as well as the justifications they made for the holocaust. same thing with italy more broadly. but i have no idea what the ideology of Japan was, or how the war and wicked atrocities were viewed by Japanese society

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    fun guy

    what was the ideology of Imperial Japan, especially during WW2? i can somewhat understand the ideology of the Nazis, and their motivation behind WW2, as well as the justifications they made for the holocaust. same thing with italy more broadly. but i have no idea what the ideology of Japan was, or how the war and wicked atrocities were viewed by Japanese society

    also, do you think the CPC was correct in uniting with the KMT to fight Japan? more broadly, should Communists unite with the ruling class army to fight against an invading imperial power? you could apply this to the war in Ukraine, as in should Ukrainian Communists engage in struggle against Russia or should they save the lives of their members and focus on antagonizing the people? i think theirs also a difference between supporting war efforts and going all out/putting all your troops on the front line. so like while the CPC supported the KMT against Japanese invaders, they weren't throwing away the lives of their members en masse. because even if they beat japan their party would be weak af and lose the ensuing civil war

    We do not and never have put all wars on the same plane. Marx and Engels supported the revolutionary struggle of the Irish against Great Britain, of the Poles against the tsar, even though in these two nationalist wars the leaders were, for the most part, members of the bourgeoisie and even at times of the feudal aristocracy ... at all events, Catholic reactionaries.

    In the Far East we have a classic example. China is a semicolonial country which Japan is transforming, under our very eyes, into a colonial country. Japan’s struggle is imperialist and reactionary. China’s struggle is emancipatory and progressive.

    But Chiang Kai-shek? We need have no illusions about Chiang Kai-shek, his party, or the whole ruling class of China, just as Marx and Engels had no illusions about the ruling classes of Ireland and Poland. Chiang Kai-shek is the executioner of the Chinese workers and peasants. But today he is forced, despite himself, to struggle against Japan for the remainder of the independence of China. Tomorrow he may again betray. It is possible. It is probable. It is even inevitable. But today he is struggling. Only cowards, scoundrels, or complete imbeciles can refuse to participate in that struggle.

    marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1937/10/sino.htm

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    fun guy

    also, do you think the CPC was correct in uniting with the KMT to fight Japan? more broadly, should Communists unite with the ruling class army to fight against an invading imperial power? you could apply this to the war in Ukraine, as in should Ukrainian Communists engage in struggle against Russia or should they save the lives of their members and focus on antagonizing the people? i think theirs also a difference between supporting war efforts and going all out/putting all your troops on the front line. so like while the CPC supported the KMT against Japanese invaders, they weren't throwing away the lives of their members en masse. because even if they beat japan their party would be weak af and lose the ensuing civil war

    We do not and never have put all wars on the same plane. Marx and Engels supported the revolutionary struggle of the Irish against Great Britain, of the Poles against the tsar, even though in these two nationalist wars the leaders were, for the most part, members of the bourgeoisie and even at times of the feudal aristocracy ... at all events, Catholic reactionaries.

    In the Far East we have a classic example. China is a semicolonial country which Japan is transforming, under our very eyes, into a colonial country. Japan’s struggle is imperialist and reactionary. China’s struggle is emancipatory and progressive.

    But Chiang Kai-shek? We need have no illusions about Chiang Kai-shek, his party, or the whole ruling class of China, just as Marx and Engels had no illusions about the ruling classes of Ireland and Poland. Chiang Kai-shek is the executioner of the Chinese workers and peasants. But today he is forced, despite himself, to struggle against Japan for the remainder of the independence of China. Tomorrow he may again betray. It is possible. It is probable. It is even inevitable. But today he is struggling. Only cowards, scoundrels, or complete imbeciles can refuse to participate in that struggle.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1937/10/sino.htm

    • "KMT are bent on destroying us." Quite true, they are always trying to destroy us. I fully admit the soundness of this appraisal, and indeed one would have to be fast asleep to overlook the point. But the question is whether there has been any change in the way they are trying to destroy us. I think there has been. The change is from war and massacre to reform and deceit, from a tough policy to a soft one, from a military to a political policy. Why has there been such a change? Confronted with Japanese imperialism, the bourgeoisie and the Kuomintang are temporarily forced to seek an ally in the proletariat, just as we are seeking an ally in the bourgeoisie. We should take this as our point of departure in considering the question. Internationally, for a similar reason, the French government has changed from hostility towards the Soviet Union to alliance with it. Our domestic task has changed from a military to a political one. We for our part have no use for plotting or scheming; our aim is to defeat Japanese imperialism in a common effort by uniting with all those members of the bourgeoisie and the Kuomintang who favour resistance.

    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_15.htm

    mao is the f***ing🐐 man, no one has a better writing style

    To reject the participation of the bourgeoisie in the revolution on the ground that it can only be temporary and to describe the alliance with anti-Japanese sections of the bourgeoisie (in a semi-colonial country) as capitulation is a Trotskyite approach, with which we cannot agree. Today such an alliance is in fact a necessary bridge on the way to socialism.*

    this is funny tho cuz the trotsky article i linked in my last post agreed with Mao's a***ysis

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    Lein

    Are there any people worse than the british? Even Americans aren't this deranged

    https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1605243990814916608

    I mean you can’t just say you’ll never use it it ruins the whole point