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  • Dec 2, 2022
    sniper
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    yes

    i used to be into doing little debates on here as well but i kinda dont care anymore

    its something you cant really move people on here about

    people are set in their convictions, and i do think people have misconceptions generally by refusing to engage with many of the theory and internal critiques written by anarchists that can help answer various thoughts, instead depending on old soviet tropes

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    This marxist professor of Japanese history has a bunch of lectures on his youtube channel, I've been watching them throughout the week and I thought I'd share them here.

    Tokugawa Japan & Meiji Restoration

    Development of Capitalism in Japan

    More Meiji Era Stuff

    Politics and Class Struggle in the 1920s

    Interwar and WW2 Period

    The American Occupation

    Japanese Politics during the Cold War

    The Post War Japanese Right Wing

    Neoliberalism in Japan

  • Dec 2, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    yeah after the Nadigram Incident which was deeply unpopular neoliberal economic reform that was pushed by India and CPI(M), that lead to CPI(M) collaborating with the Indian state with the following protests killing 14 protesters, that is class collaboration. After this supported Operation Lalgarh which can’t be described as anything else than white terror after support for the maoist skyrocketed in west bengal cause of the previous events

    As well working with Indian state forces killing Maoist in Kerala who are the only people defending Advasi people from a genocidal indian state, again class collaboration.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandigram_violence

    https://m.timesofindia.com/india/cpm-mob-strips-woman-in-nandigram-probe-on/articleshow/3016798.cms

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Lalgarh

    Enlisting help from Israel in west bengal
    https://m.rediff.com/amp/news/report/israel-to-help-west-bengal-tackle-maoists/20100412.htm

    nandigram is f***ed, as is every other instance of state violence against leftist/adivasis/women/etc. and sure, you can call the CPI (M) class collaborators, but thats not really the point. i still fail to see how killing individual cpi (m) members does anything to advance revolution or improve class consciousness. and violence between (M) and Maoists has been an issue for decades, way before Nandigram afaik

    im not critiquing the use of revolutionary violence in general, but it should be calculated and co-ordinated, no? random attacks on (m) members does nothing productive and therefore I don't support it. and like im not saying that the Maoists aren't worth supporting because they attack (m) members, or that it takes away from the brutal violence committed by the indian state. its just not a productive use of resources

    is it idealist to think that the antagonism between the cpi (m) and Maoists can be resolved without one annihilating the other?

    i think (M) should take Maoists seriously, even if they disagree with their methods, since theres no denying the impact that Maoists have had. at the same time, i think its disingenuous to completely dismiss the CPI (M) as a 1:1 socdem party who has fully slipped into revisionism and has no commitment to building socialism.

    im probably stating the obvious but ultimately, nothing good will come of parliamentary leftists and maoists violently fighting amongst each other. killing cpi (m) cadres wont make them less revisionary, it will only make (m)'s base more opposed to the maoists. and once again i dont mean to draw an equivalency between state violence and maoist violence, the former is obviously much more powerful and coordinated and causes more net harm

  • Dec 2, 2022

    Was asked if i wanna be in the national students union board next year :khaled:

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    Fun Fact: Japan's neoliberals mobilized into an organization called "Group1984" who called their Austerity/Deregulation campaigns "Witch Hunts" and lobbied for the Government to euthanize/sterilize low IQ people. They were very interested in Social Engineering, pushed the idea of Japanese people as a special race and Japan as a harmonious classless society to lure people away from class consciousness.

    They've served in numerous Japanese administration, most prominently in the 1980s.

  • Lein

    Fun Fact: Japan's neoliberals mobilized into an organization called "Group1984" who called their Austerity/Deregulation campaigns "Witch Hunts" and lobbied for the Government to euthanize/sterilize low IQ people. They were very interested in Social Engineering, pushed the idea of Japanese people as a special race and Japan as a harmonious classless society to lure people away from class consciousness.

    They've served in numerous Japanese administration, most prominently in the 1980s.

  • Dec 2, 2022
    Lein

    Fun Fact: Japan's neoliberals mobilized into an organization called "Group1984" who called their Austerity/Deregulation campaigns "Witch Hunts" and lobbied for the Government to euthanize/sterilize low IQ people. They were very interested in Social Engineering, pushed the idea of Japanese people as a special race and Japan as a harmonious classless society to lure people away from class consciousness.

    They've served in numerous Japanese administration, most prominently in the 1980s.

  • Dec 2, 2022
    sniper

    ima be honest, as a fellow anarchist, that vaporwave aesthetic is kinda corny

    Idk I like it. Now I feel insecure

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    Lein

    This marxist professor of Japanese history has a bunch of lectures on his youtube channel, I've been watching them throughout the week and I thought I'd share them here.

    Tokugawa Japan & Meiji Restoration

    !https://youtu.be/UkWMPUamS5g

    Development of Capitalism in Japan

    !https://youtu.be/KlI4SuUPxj4

    More Meiji Era Stuff

    !https://youtu.be/kzO3uWsJe4k

    Politics and Class Struggle in the 1920s

    !https://youtu.be/AWu1GMPjBtI

    Interwar and WW2 Period

    !https://youtu.be/9opFM7WXaZE

    The American Occupation

    !https://youtu.be/IpcYLD6m_kA

    Japanese Politics during the Cold War

    !https://youtu.be/TP5vyGq8tNM

    The Post War Japanese Right Wing

    !https://youtu.be/dvQtEaBUy_o

    Neoliberalism in Japan

    !https://youtu.be/0Ou3I_GVXIA

    do you have anymore similar channels

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Yo

  • Dec 3, 2022
    Sir Real

    Yo

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    kanye

  • Dec 3, 2022
    VA7a

    do you have anymore similar channels

    Nah sorry

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    kanye

    Pro-Black, Anti-African

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Lein

    Pro-Black, Anti-African

    listen i had to read an unironic take earlier on how colonialism was actually anti-racist since missionary and infrastructure work forced settlers to recognize africans as humans. im never recovering from reading that.

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    kanye

    what do they think blocking the @ of a verified account is doing lol

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Sir Real

    what do they think blocking the @ of a verified account is doing lol

    usually they block the @ so they don't get banned, since you used to be able to get banned for posting screenshots of people's accounts for "inciting harassment"

  • Dec 3, 2022
    krishna bound

    listen i had to read an unironic take earlier on how colonialism was actually anti-racist since missionary and infrastructure work forced settlers to recognize africans as humans. im never recovering from reading that.

    Those kind of people disgust me more than those who admit it's racist and revel in it.

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    usually they block the @ so they don't get banned, since you used to be able to get banned for posting screenshots of people's accounts for "inciting harassment"

    Ah I didn’t know that

  • Dec 3, 2022
    Sir Real

    Ah I didn’t know that

    yeah it's a dumb rule on a site that was supposed to be about literally retweeting people

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    There is this popular trope of the stupid uneducated worker who is easily manipulated into voting against his interests. They do exist, lots of them in fact. But from my experience most these guys just don't vote. Even those who have fully bought into Hustle Grindset (a lot of gig workers for some reason) r mostly tuned out of politics. It's the EDUCATED middle class workers who I see being led like sheep.

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Lein

    There is this popular trope of the stupid uneducated worker who is easily manipulated into voting against his interests. They do exist, lots of them in fact. But from my experience most these guys just don't vote. Even those who have fully bought into Hustle Grindset (a lot of gig workers for some reason) r mostly tuned out of politics. It's the EDUCATED middle class workers who I see being led like sheep.

    my area only had 36% of the registered voters actually vote lol, working class people really don’t give a s*** about elections

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    my area only had 36% of the registered voters actually vote lol, working class people really don’t give a s*** about elections

    Pokemon go to the polls

  • Dec 3, 2022
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    Lein

    There is this popular trope of the stupid uneducated worker who is easily manipulated into voting against his interests. They do exist, lots of them in fact. But from my experience most these guys just don't vote. Even those who have fully bought into Hustle Grindset (a lot of gig workers for some reason) r mostly tuned out of politics. It's the EDUCATED middle class workers who I see being led like sheep.

    This is big facts

    I do a lot of tenant organizing and our org is openly socialist/communist. 90% of actual proletariat people who we organize are well aware of that and don’t give a f*** and are more curious about it than anything. There’s been a couple times where I’ve had tenants be kinda weirded out by it and ask “so you’re actually commies?” And I’m always just straight up about it, and after talking to them even tho they might not f*** with it they come out of the conversation with respect for the politics and just happy someone’s fighting for them

    This is the big thing rightists get wrong. They say they want to promote socialism but are always too scared to say it cuz they say it will “alienate” people. Like yeah, it’s going to alienate petite bourgeois people like yourself, which is the only type of people they ever try to organize. But if you’ve ever been in a slum where people are really down bad living paycheck to paycheck, our politics are incredibly relatable to them if you’re just willing to be open and up front about it. These rightists and social democrats/fascists think that you have to be hush hush about it and say people will somehow spontaneously embrace socialism/communism at some point in the future if we just get them economistic gains without ever saying anything about politics (they don’t even actually believe that, they just use that pie in the sky s*** as an excuse to cover the fact they aren’t really Marxists like they claim to be)

    Point is. If you dedicate yourself to serving the people, you can be as open as you want about your politics because a) you’re materially helping them and they are willing to listen to what you have to say based on that alone and b) working class people are always open to real working class ideology. If we truly believe our politics/ideology is of and for the interests of the working class, why would we ever try to hide our beliefs from working class people? It’s pure cowardice and liberalism on the part of these phonies. Whenever we’ve had big line struggles about the political direction of the org, the rightists are always the ones trying to say “we need to tone it down” but they’re the exact same people who never actually go to the slums and organize, they’re never willing to put in the practical work despite constantly crying about “being pragmatic”. This is due to their petite bourgeois class outlook that makes them uncomfortable and scared to go to where the people are really at and organize them