There are deaths that are very cruel and sadistic all throughout Terrifier 2. The opening scene features a death that is very close to the level of this one and that is towards a man. But honestly, I just don't think it's a big deal. It's clearly meant to be entertainment and fun exploitation horror. The moment you start mixing social justice outrage into art is when you start severely hurting the quality of your work. Lars Von Trier said that if you can film it, you should be able to show it and I 100% agree with that.

I don't think its purely subjective at all. Booksmart is the 2010s most praised comedy film and anyone can admit it is no where near the iconic comedies from the past decades. And you also factually can look at how many of these films written or directed by women may get a strong response from liberal critics looking to peddle their agendas but often fail to get a similar response from general audiences. You're not seeing general audiences going to bat for films like Never, Rarely, Sometimes, Always or Nomadland or Titane like they would for The Social Network or Get Out or The Grand Budapest Hotel (comparison for the more artsy or oscar bait-y type films). Similarly for blockbusters, everyone loved a movie like Black Panther or Top Gun Maverick but how about Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman (I know this was considered a hit on release but since the sequel, it's clear to say people don't really care about WW as much as they used to)?

Women have clearly struggled to make films that truly reach the public and it is happening on a larger scale now than it ever did in the past (films like Point Break, Clueless, American Psycho). Even movies initially well received like Selma, The Hurt Locker, Lady Bird, etc. have clearly not retained that reception as years have passed considering everyones forgotten about them but will still talk about a movie like Big or Near Dark.

I don't fully blame the women who are making movies right now. I mean I can tell most of them are no where as talented as people like Elaine May or Kathryn Bigelow, but the issue is that producers give these hacks jobs because they know they will make movies that promote their agendas.

domestic abuse is a whole different kind of crime and that is not what is happening in this film

LMAOOOOOO y'all really engaged him.

y’all niggas writing novels about trivial horror movie s***

get a grip immediately

@Blueface

I just want to say thank you.

You emphasized all my points far more eloquently than I could have done.

It’s also great to see that at least some people, like yourself, have an educated and sound perspective on this subject.

had to touch grass after that post

That very first sentence shows that you’re not equipped enough for a conversation like this.

The rest is just nonsense, or is there a point in there? I honestly don’t understand what you’re talking about; in regards to the original context.

What about Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley? Carried one of the most successful franchises on her back; an iconic role, canonized in science fiction film history. Or are you just talking about antagonists?

Like I said: very few of your points make sense.

Most of this was bullshit from you and it just shows you’re not equipped to handle reality and you’re too caught up in liberal agendas

Also I hated Aliens and what it did by turning the xenomorph into a bug to be squashed by a bunch of one dimensional tough guy/woman stereotypes, so I always thought the xenomorph carried the Alien franchise, not Ripley. Ripley is a badass female hero but most “badass” characters are boring to me. Definitely no where as atrocious a character as like Rey or Wonder Woman or Capt Marvel, but still not that interesting.

Mans really arguing twitter semantics over a (pretty good) B movie slasher that was color graded by a twelve year old

Some people really just need to log the f*** off and quit wasting their time. Like what is the point

From what I’ve seen of the film it seems to have a lot of heart behind it

Cool practical effects

I liked the first one better. I still have to see a hallow’s eve

So many bad takes the past page n a half

No problem, and thank you!

idk what point you were trying to make, but ALL those movies you listed have in fact been well received by BOTH critics and audiences (feel free to check their cinemascores and imdb ratings). So, moot point.

Those blockbusters comparisons you made make no sense. Are we talking about success at the box office? Women historically have not had the same opportunities as men, and Hollywood is no different. As time goes on, and other role models emerge, hopefully we will start to see more women in powerful creative positions.

Now if you're talking about movies in general - there are plenty of good movies made by women today. Personally, "Portrait of a Lady on Fire" is one of my favorite films of recent years.

Your ending point reads as conspiratorial and insulting to the women who carry the projects.

Nobody said it is. I don't know if you've noticed but the conversation has drifted away from this particular film some time ago.

Imma be extremely real with you, between you complaining about "liberal critics", expressing sentiments that come across as appealing to the men's rights movement, and saying that black-on-black crime is a bigger issue than police brutality, I'm sensing a pattern here.

Btw, that last sentiment is intellectually dishonest, is drenched in racist connotations, and is typically used by conservatives to try and sweep a VERY real issue under the rug.

I'm not saying you're doing it deliberately, but it's something I've noticed. And of course, I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Cinemascore is not really that reliable because it’s just a pure gut reaction to a work. You get a better grasp of how films were received by the general public based on other factors like the Rotten Tomatoes user score or just in general how often people make videos or just talk about those movies and it’s obvious they’re not really talked about anymore. Most of the women who made these movies are no where in sight or making forgettable films and that’s because they got gassed up off their mediocre first couple films by liberal critics to then get big opportunities they don’t deserve. I can’t say I’ve seen a good movie made by a woman since Watcher, which is nothing special either. It achieved the bare minimum of being an effective genre movie that people praised on release but don’t care about anymore. Personally didn’t care for Portrait of a Lady on Fire either and the general audience didn’t even care to see that movie.

I don’t think there’s anything conspiratorial about what I said. It’s a fact that studio execs and producers ultimately decide what gets made and most directors they hire are effectively as yes men/women. And often times they hire minorities as directors because of social equity as well as because they can make a liberal agenda movie that hits their quota for the year. You’re not going to see any of these women become the next James Cameron or Nolan or Spielberg and that’s because they’re not talented enough to actually make great art because they’re not being hired for their talent (made very apparent when Chloe Zhaos trash ass movies got gassed up and it showed when she made Eternals)

Not really. You tried to move the goalpost after I pointed out that men get attacked / killed by men way more to then making it about domestic abuse, a topic never depicted in Terrifier 2.

That pattern is that liberal politics in general is fascistic as f***. Ultimately what I’m arguing for would help women in the industry as well as increase the quality of their work and stories in cinema, so not sure how that reads as MRA. Black on black crime is a huge issue, much bigger than police brutality. Example: Takeoff gets killed over a f***ing game of dice but all media headlines are just “prayers and rip” as if this was non preventable. Believe it or not, this happens way more often than a police officer gunning down a black person but this is what the media will say cannot be reasoned with or stopped. They act like it’s just normal for a 28 year old black man to drop dead just like that. That’s why the liberal media ain’t s***.

I did no such thing. The domestic abuse issue was simply to make you understand that in the mundane daily routine, women feel more fear of men than men do. You bringing up the issue of "but men also kill more men" was never worth anything. It is a strawman, simply used to divert the initial point.

As for the issue of black-on-black crime, the issue of police brutality is completely separate and the two issues should never be mixed. Any race is proportionally killed more by members of the same race - and yet you never hear about white-on-white crime (damn, I do wonder why).

Using the crime argument to take away culpability from a racist police system is disingenuous, to say the least

tf happened

Give me alllll the fantasy s*** this time Damien Leone. I wanna see Sienna and Art battling on some Lord of the Rings settings

Oh you know for a fact that girl is about to be a STAR. It seems like literally everyone is praising her and she’s got that star factor

Do I have to watch the first one to peep this 👀

Not really

Just got out, this was crazy lmaoo when he came back up with the salt and bleach I was losing it

No matter how traumatic people may have thought that was, I know they were laughing at that part