WRU

2mo

The tides are not turning big bro

ragedsycokiller

2mo

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Bro. Misandry won't affect you as long as you act like a regular decent human. Most men who worry about misandry are giving off anxiety or already got some stigma with women. Even the most toxic masculine andrew tate thrive ignoring the thought about women hating them. The "nice guys" or "I don't do anything to women" who worry about it get the most flack and suffer the most.

snowboyrari

2mo

you overly pessimistic

WRU

2mo

The tides are not turning big bro

Jonboi

2mo

this isn't a convo about whether it effects ME because I'm not selfish, it's a convo about whether it effects society. this is just more d*** swinging "man up, being effected by things is for b****es, pull yourself up by the bootstraps" bullshit.

Jonboi

2mo

this isn't a convo about whether it effects ME because I'm not selfish, it's a convo about whether it effects society. this is just more d*** swinging "man up, being effected by things is for b****es, pull yourself up by the bootstraps" bullshit.

truly

2mo

it’s like racism against white people, obviously its real and happening but its good that its happening. the tides are turning and its glorious

Jonboi

2mo

this isn't a convo about whether it effects ME because I'm not selfish, it's a convo about whether it effects society. this is just more d*** swinging "man up, being effected by things is for b****es, pull yourself up by the bootstraps" bullshit.

Jonboi

2mo

yeah, this was artwork made by a female artist that I paid to use as the cover for my poetry book, it's 🔥

fun guy

2mo

Uh oh, mods are gonna lock this come morning

I want to tell you guys about the reality of having lived four decades of silent virtuous pain and never having your humanity and desirability recognized. It’s not that I haven’t done the intellectual labor to empathize with the broadest possible spectrum of female perspectives, I’ve read Sanger and Friedan and MacKinnon and Dworkin and Firestone and Faludi and Winterson and Butler and Solanas and Schulman and hooks and Greer. I understand them, and they perhaps understand the viewpoint of the patriarchy and its beneficiaries; but what have any of them read to understand us? Where in the archive do we even exist? My entire life I’ve been nothing but useful to women, selfless to the point that when I die my entire being will evaporate without residue, with no one left to know what I’ve had to endure absolutely by myself. Think of all the times you’ve been ill, with no one to bring you soup. Those nights you wake in the dark full of fear with no one to talk to. Every unshared bed. Every expired condom. Those couples you see everywhere, laughing and going home and f***ing in every conceivable position: it will never be you. It will never be you. This is why people are wrong that they haven’t stolen anything from us: They’ve stolen our lives, our happiness. Our future and the people in it. You will never have a woman, and you will never have a son. Women’s f***ed-up preferences may have been ingrained there by the patriarchy, but women, as moral agents fully equal to men, are no less responsible for them, and I will not infantilize them by claiming otherwise. Me, I’ve done more than my part: I’ve actively combated misogyny both in the world and within myself, tithed monthly to Planned Parenthood, marched and canvassed and fundraised and posted for women’s rights. I’m commitment-friendly, prosperous, successful, not ugly, in fact a solid eight from the neck up and nipples down, six-inch p**** from base of shaft, high sperm count and seminal motility, +7° canthal tilt and 14.6 inch biacromial breadth, veritably a straight flush of stable-pair-bonding qualities, AND I have never ONCE catcalled, gaslit, interrupted, or mansplained, taking every single rejection in stride without any social support, no shared costs, inside jokes, pet names, intimate confessions, indeed any fond romantic memories whatsoever, none of the bliss of puppy love unspoiled by bitterness, the naïve love that knows no betrayal, nor trusting companionship that weathers hate and temptation, nobody waking up nestled in your elbow, no one to try new restaurants or take selfies or travel with, to say nothing of the conveniences, stability, and tax breaks enjoyed by the conjugal, on top of enduring the only real stigma that exists anymore, the only one that makes you less dignified for being honest about it: BACHELORHOOD. I’ve never complained, objected, or harassed anyone all these years no matter how cruel or senseless the rejection, if anything I enabled their rejections, and even took it as my duty. Which is all the more insidious, actually, that they convinced us to normalize and accept this, become complicit in our own oppression by pretending it’s not happening or doesn’t matter, or even if it is happening and does matter, you deserve it: that’s right, THEY are gaslighting YOU, all to absolve themselves of guilt, at the meager cost of our lives. We are made to eternally repent for the sins of the worst men, while those very same men reap the benefits of our care and counsel. And we are not even humored to speak on the matter. For they have built a cunning trap, a rhetorical kill switch, where if you try to speak up for them, they say Stay in your lane!, and if you say nothing, they say Silence is violence! Indicted from birth, lashed forever to the rack of apology, never forgiven much less rewarded, regardless of action or intent—do you see how they have made our existence impossible? This, after all we’ve sacrificed for them; I would have died for them if they’d asked, I would have thrown my bleeding body on the barricades of the patriarchy, and they would have let me do it, indifferently accepting my death as their due, with not a punctum of guilt as they go off to bed and wed my murderers. That is the long con, their big lie. By now my bachelorhood, and yours, cannot be ascribed to circumstance or bad luck, only injustice. We must reject it. Like my many, many female friends themselves always used to say, nothing’s wrong with me, any woman would have been lucky to have me, I’ve only asked for the same modest redamancy that everyone else - including chauvinists, liars, addicts, narcissists, abusers, rapists, and low-IQ men- enjoys everywhere. I’d be the last to demand any special treatment for my actual, unselfish, principled feminism, and to be sure, no specific woman is required to be attracted to us... but the fact that not one has been, out of billions, is proof of a categorical failure, a mass abrogation of the social contract by the legions of treacherous, evasive, giggling yeastbuckets. I have always, always been there for women. When have they ever been there for us?

Jonboi

2mo

yeah, this was artwork made by a female artist that I paid to use as the cover for my poetry book, it's 🔥

CGI Dog

2mo

choosing to engage with this in the earnest way i can only from what i have observed

tbh its hard for me to interpret this poll as a "rise in misandry" unless im missing something because you didnt add much context, theres nothing here that indicates women hate men more than before. "men are dogs" "men don't cry" "men can't do x or y" and other prejudices have been around forever. but again im taking this at face value

and im not in a position to speak for women because i'm not one but if you took into account the everyday experience of the average woman, would you have a positive or negative view of men? the poll doesn't say "do you hate the other gender", it asks "do you have a positive or negative opinion" almost every woman i know or like 99% of them has had weird experiences with men be it harassment or microaggressions (and this is all anecdotal, i know)

and im not denying that men do experience prejudices (as a consequence of the patriarchial system), but at the same time misogyny has material, real life consequences for women (they get killed, abused, their rights violated). in this regard very little has changed for women, but somehow we always need to talk about the "male loneliness epidemic" and "how the left is abandoning men" how about men are failing men?

i think its worth discussing. however, you might or might not like the answer

insertcoolnamehere

2mo

Lemme stop s***posting for a second and say some earnest s***.

It DOES feel like sometimes (key word: sometimes ) as good men we be “paying for the sins of the father/bad ex” when talking/dating some shawty every now and then.

( Before anyone spaz hear me out )

Like, yall talking and in the midst of said talking she divulges to you things she’s working through or been through and you listen with understanding ears. Reassurance that you aint that type of individual and everything is smooth at the beginning.

And then outta nowhere it’s like she pulls a “them” on “you.” (Mind you, this the proverbial you that up to this point have done nothing but be a secure attachment type of partner.) and it’s like everything she hated that was done to her, she now does to you (e.g. lack of reciprocity, “playing games”, not respecting boundaries after I told you give me some space after you admitted you lied to me, etc.)

That s*** does mentally wear on you especially when you know you pretty much aint did nothing to really deserve that. You gotta remind yourself that whatever another person thinks or did to you have nothing to do with your own character or self worth tho.

It is easier said than done. Patriarchy failed the entire world by ridding the human experience of nuance to feel emotions of all types.

SB: this was like years ago. In a much better healed state since then and ironically, since then it’s been 2 years without any yeeks lol.

@Rig said it best:

I think us males need hobbies or just s*** to dive fully into now more than ever. just something other than diving into chick's DMs or swiping right

LORD Alfredo

2mo

Need that @plants love story, ya know?

President Yamal

2mo

Oh we talking about women?

Jonboi

2mo

this isn't a convo about whether it effects ME because I'm not selfish, it's a convo about whether it effects society. this is just more d*** swinging "man up, being effected by things is for b****es, pull yourself up by the bootstraps" bullshit.