Yea and he ain’t write any of them. Especially this one, too fast too many syllables. It’s obvious fam I know you don’t wanna believe it but if you hear Kanye spitting like that he didn’t write it

I think Kanye is very capable of writing even better than what he did on off the grid so I have no reason to believe he didn’t do his verse

he probably got help with the flow but the content of the verse is too disjointed and weird to not be kanye (at least the majority of it). it's likely there was a reference he was going off of, but i think he went his own way with it for the most part. most ghostwriters are trying to reel kanye in and keep him on topic, not come up with a bunch of random and goofy bars for him to rap.

ok ok is an example of a song i wouldn't be surprised if kanye wrote very little on because it's too topically and musically focused and he barely sounds like himself on it.

I wouldn’t take the topic thing to mean anything, it’s a less topical track and the assignment was just to go in/out rap fivio

Kanye almost always has some input on the lyrics, the flow was 100% someone else, he doesn’t know how to do that I’d bet my life

If he actually wrote the Life of the Party verse it's so clear his best verses are the ones written by him only

Ye was never viewed as a rapper primarily even in CD-Grad era. He’s always been seen as a producer first. So ghost writing isn’t ever gonna be such a big stain on his career.

Drake was/is viewed as a rapper fr fr, and wants to be seen as that primarily. So those allegations are gonna hit him harder.

Kmsa probably his worse verse on the album to me lol. Just reinforces my thoughts that when he uses writers for entire songs, with no input from himself it’s usually a bad verse. But I honestly think that verse is all him. He sounds like he was trying to freestyle it/do 1 take on it.

One of the worst Kanye songs ever so I was very glad to hear he didn't write it

Think you’re conflating separate things. Flow and writing the verse don’t always go hand in hand. Plus Ye has never been stingy or shady when it comes to listing credits. Pretty sure he’d list Cyhi for writer credits if he did contribute.

jail is written by francis and lights

I swear to God, I've seen it somewhere either in his lyrics or an interview that he wants people to see him as a rapper and not as producer. I mean don't think about him rapping as an afterthought.
I don't know where it was, but I'm sure that especially in that timespan CD - GRAD he wanted to be viewed as a rapper.
After Drake was exposed I think there was an interview with Kanye where he kinda said something like: Oh, it's ok, I've been doing s*** like this all the time, it's literally a process in the industry. CyHi also admitted all this - We want to be like Adele - bullshit.
So I see Drake's exposure as a turning point after which everyone in Ye sweatshop relaxed and some lines here and there turned into straight up YES I WROTE IT - Kaycyy.

Lmfao. Flow is a part of writing a verse. If I write the flow and you write the lyrics, we are equal co writers. You are wrong NOT to conflate flow with writing, writing a verse is not just writing words, all musical elements are also a part of it. Rhythm, flow, melody, whatever.

With how messy this rollout was I wouldn’t be surprised if the credits are incomplete

you just being disingenuous n a hater right now it’s iight lol.

Yea when he first started out rapping people in the industry just wanted him to produce. The same people in the industry still see him as a Producer first, rapper second. Only casual fans who entered into hip hop through Yeezus or whatever, primarily know him for rapping first.

People were talking about him as one of the best rappers out at a point in time, but once everyone started seeing 16 writers credited for one song, all that talk died.

As far as Drake, that doesn’t have any baring on Ye’s use of writers. He was using them before Drake ever hit the scene lol. I think everyone who performs at a Drake, or Kanye level needs people around them contributing to maintain at that level.

Look at a producer like Pharrell for example. He’s been known to help & make people adjust their flow, cadence, and delivery when they’re rapping on his beats.

There are even reference tracks for Jay Z out there if you search. Kanye has a reference track for Lucifer which is one of Hov’s best songs on The Black Album. So if the goat has people who make reference tracks for him, that should tell you it’s a more common practice than you’d like to think in the genre of hip hop/rap

imagine another man writing your subliminal disses towards other rappers for you

It’s definitely the elephant in the room when discussing Kanye

He’s like Kanye Khaled now

As much as we don’t want it to, it will always be nasty when an acclaimed rapper like Ye is writing as little raps as he does

Drake wasn’t “exposed” and that continues to be the wildest narrative that has damaged his career

He very clearly writes a ton of his raps. Credits say so, hes said it, etc.

He doesn’t write 100% of all of his raps but no one does. This isn’t what Kanye does.

Honestly idk how Ye gets such a pass for this 🤷🏾‍♂️

Like all the rappers he’s compared to write WAY MORE than he does lol

He doesn’t write, he doesn’t make beats, he’s just…

brain damage

You guys have to realize ghostwriting does not mean that Kanye literally does not write anything.

If someone mentions a bar could be better placed here rather than there, that's a credit and ghostwriting. If someone changes a word in a line to make it fit the rhythm, that's a credit and ghostwriting.

I do not understand this narrative that Kanye hasn't put a pen on his paper since like MBDTF. And even then, he's always used other people to complete his verses so I'm not even sure what folks are even looking for anymore.

This is cap . First 3 albums been known outside of Jesus walks verse 1 , folks inputted lines but he didn't write any just spat lines in his head

So why do all Kanye projects still sound like Kanye projects if he does nothing?

God Breathed is one of the only songs that you can tell is truly all the way Ye, usually when there’s noticeable grammar mistakes or words that just don’t go together in a sentence I assume it’s Ye

An example of this being the 2nd verse on New Again
No one is writing keep your hanitized or the rest of that but Kanye, whenever it’s oddly poetic it’s Ye

Because he’s a talented producer with an impeccable ear

I’m not talking about how good his albums turn out tbh