Sep 9, 2021·1 reply
RIP PRINCEKanye literally doing cyhi verse word for word on kmsa it even cuts to cyhi at some parts lmao
That’s not even cyhi lmao
Sep 9, 2021·1 replyNot entirely. I think he should work on the craft of actually rapping again though. There are countless anecdotes of Ye actually rapping, participating in cyphers for hours at a time etc.
We’ll probably never know the extent of how much ghost written verses were there from like CD to WTT. But I’d like to think he’s responsible for at least 70%-75% of his verses from that period in time.
The more known it was that Ye uses writers the worse his verses became imo.
As far as reference track, Ye usually gets help with his flow, and cadence. That’s mostly what they’re for.
Sep 9, 2021·2 repliesBabaláwoNot entirely. I think he should work on the craft of actually rapping again though. There are countless anecdotes of Ye actually rapping, participating in cyphers for hours at a time etc.
We’ll probably never know the extent of how much ghost written verses were there from like CD to WTT. But I’d like to think he’s responsible for at least 70%-75% of his verses from that period in time.
The more known it was that Ye uses writers the worse his verses became imo.
As far as reference track, Ye usually gets help with his flow, and cadence. That’s mostly what they’re for.
I can tell now when Ye does the verse himself.
listen to saint Pablo, nmpila, og hurricane.
ye can rap his ass off but his cadence and flow be all over the place- Sep 9, 2021Makaveli
That’s not even cyhi lmao
bro read the replies before this post we already went through dat lil bro
- Sep 9, 2021
lil dude
Sep 9, 2021Did anyone help Kanye write his verse for hurricane? It sounds like something only he could write
Sep 9, 2021Y’all give way too much power to liner notes and names
Every time Kanye puts a team together, their solo outputs never sound like the album they worked on nor does it match the quality , and you continue to doubt the Midas touch
- Sep 9, 2021·1 replyMrIndigo96
I can tell now when Ye does the verse himself.
listen to saint Pablo, nmpila, og hurricane.
ye can rap his ass off but his cadence and flow be all over the placeYea idk the exact change, maybe around TLOP his natural flow just got f***ed up like he forgot how to rap. Writers block I guess.
Also I remember even back in the day when there was talk of Ye getting help on his verses, it was never entire 16s written for him. It was just a couple lines here n there to tighten everything up. Once he started allowing people to write entire 16s, and whole songs, I think that was a jumping the shark moment. But he’s said he’s been dealing with writers block, so
I remember the first time I heard about him using writers I wanna say it was for 808s, on 106 & Park iirc it was one girl I wish I remembered her name, she had a song out at the time as well. But he had her help with the song writing, and melodic stuff.
Sep 9, 2021Or you could just enjoy the music for what it is and stay away from leaks
Sep 9, 2021·2 replies
ElricI feel his spirit in these verses you cant convince me he didn't write them
I was sure that Kanye wrote "It's hard to be an angel when you are surrounded by demons..."
But well that wasn't true
Sep 9, 2021Pokerking4128I was sure that Kanye wrote "It's hard to be an angel when you are surrounded by demons..."
But well that wasn't trueyeah he did
- Sep 9, 2021
YayoJail - 100% Kanye
God Breathed - 100% Kanye
Off The Grid - Flow on hook Pusha, verse 100% Kanye
Hurricane - 100% Kanye verse
Praise God - Kaycyy
Jonah - 100% Kanye
Ok Ok - 100% Kanye
Junya - 100% Kanye
Believe What I Say - 100% Kanye
24 - Kaycyy
Remote - 100% Kanye
Moon - Don/Cudi with Kanye vocals at the end
Heaven and hell - 100% Kanye
Donda - n/a
KMSA - Cyhi/Royce
Jesus Lord - Some of the lines Rooga, mostly Kanye
New Again - 100% Kanye
Tell The Vision - n/a
Lord I Need You - 100% Kanye
Pure Souls - 100% Kanye
Come To Life - 100% Kanye
No Child Left Behind - 100% KanyeIm referring to kanye’s parts on the album, it’s really not like you say it is tbh, exaggerated.
fact.
- Sep 9, 2021MrIndigo96
I can tell now when Ye does the verse himself.
listen to saint Pablo, nmpila, og hurricane.
ye can rap his ass off but his cadence and flow be all over the placeTo me it sounds way more lit can't really see "all over the place"
- Sep 9, 2021Babaláwo
Yea idk the exact change, maybe around TLOP his natural flow just got f***ed up like he forgot how to rap. Writers block I guess.
Also I remember even back in the day when there was talk of Ye getting help on his verses, it was never entire 16s written for him. It was just a couple lines here n there to tighten everything up. Once he started allowing people to write entire 16s, and whole songs, I think that was a jumping the shark moment. But he’s said he’s been dealing with writers block, so
I remember the first time I heard about him using writers I wanna say it was for 808s, on 106 & Park iirc it was one girl I wish I remembered her name, she had a song out at the time as well. But he had her help with the song writing, and melodic stuff.
Yeah, I've watched some fan documentary about 808s and some dude said that Ye dropped him a recording of him mumbling and said that they need to find words in that.
808s has real songs, I mean not rap songs, so I guess I can give Ye a pass on this one. - Sep 9, 2021Pokerking4128
I was sure that Kanye wrote "It's hard to be an angel when you are surrounded by demons..."
But well that wasn't true
- Sep 9, 2021·1 reply
MCMIC13Heres the interview i was referencing.
For the record I write all my own s*** and believe that is what a true MC should do.
https://youtu.be/zrpMihSD3uI
Jump to 46:16
This is were he talks about hip hop competing with other genres who have a slew of writers.
Pce, got work to do!
Maybe it's not even from that interview but I remember CyHi sad something that for me sounds like bullshit.
He said that they are now at the Grammies competing with a lot of genres for an album of the year award, and that's why they have to use the same tactics that Adele and Beyonce use. For me that argument doesn't sit right as it automatically makes all the music that they make less personal, it's not about what Ye feels etc. It's about can we win over Adele. - Sep 9, 2021·2 repliesLateReg
No less than Brian Wilson eventually worked with lyricists. He would explain what he was feeling or thinking, and Tony Asher and Van Dyke Parks would put the ideas into poetry. It doesn't make the music or the emotions or ideas any less pure or any less his. Kanye's greatest strengths beyond his vision, drive and ambition have always been his high taste and great ear, which are curatorial powers. He knows how best to get to the outcome he envisions.
When Drake was exposed for not writing some tracks on IYRTITL, people were sad, I wasn't hearing that Quentin was coming up with flows etc.
Now, everyday some new reference tor Ye emerges, and people are not sad, but some even excited because they know some dude from completely another genre who did the same thing. 
Sep 9, 2021·1 replyYayoJail - 100% Kanye
God Breathed - 100% Kanye
Off The Grid - Flow on hook Pusha, verse 100% Kanye
Hurricane - 100% Kanye verse
Praise God - Kaycyy
Jonah - 100% Kanye
Ok Ok - 100% Kanye
Junya - 100% Kanye
Believe What I Say - 100% Kanye
24 - Kaycyy
Remote - 100% Kanye
Moon - Don/Cudi with Kanye vocals at the end
Heaven and hell - 100% Kanye
Donda - n/a
KMSA - Cyhi/Royce
Jesus Lord - Some of the lines Rooga, mostly Kanye
New Again - 100% Kanye
Tell The Vision - n/a
Lord I Need You - 100% Kanye
Pure Souls - 100% Kanye
Come To Life - 100% Kanye
No Child Left Behind - 100% KanyeIm referring to kanye’s parts on the album, it’s really not like you say it is tbh, exaggerated.
Off the grid verse 100% Kanye
you got me dying lmao- Sep 9, 2021·1 reply2words
Off the grid verse 100% Kanye
you got me dying lmaoWho is it then? AI drake?
Sep 9, 2021·1 replyThe only one that ever bothered me was Violent Crimes bc that song is so personal and it would mean more if he wrote it.
- Sep 9, 2021·3 repliesYayo
Who is it then? AI drake?
Idk but I know for a fact it wasn’t Kanye. Probably Cyhi
- Sep 9, 2021·1 reply2words
Idk but I know for a fact it wasn’t Kanye. Probably Cyhi
Nah it’s Kanye
Sep 9, 2021No more crutches
- Sep 9, 2021·1 replyYayo
Nah it’s Kanye
Nope, he can’t do that flow
- Sep 9, 2021·1 reply2words
Nope, he can’t do that flow
He’s done triplet flows since sanctified
