Spice is Stone

3y

ok so im on day 8 (or day 5 depending what u count) of my current break. the brain fog is simultaneously the most frustrating and refreshing side effect of the current withdrawals

tripsix

3y

Are dab pens good? Dont want to tempt u tho

Spice is Stone

3y

all weed is good but regular pens & carts r prolly my least favorite high behind dabs and then edibles and then good old school flower

xg cloud

3y

11 months tomorrow. Best decision I ever made

Chanel1

3y

Remember how it felt smoking after a T-break? For at least a week or two, it probably felt nearly euphoric.

You have big ideas, you have insight into your life, you feel more active and inspired...

Then lady MJ starts to show her true self.

Suddenly you are smoking more each time, and more often. And that euphoric feeling fades into feeling "pretty good", but ONLY when stoned.

What happened?

It all comes down to dopamine, your body's "reward and motivation" chemical, and if you have ADHD, then you are in even more trouble (more on this in a second)....

Research Paper, "The effects of

49-tetrahydrocannabinol on the dopamine system https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles /PMC5123717/

In this paper, researchers looked at the impact of marijuana on dopamine levels over time. What they found was, smoking a little bit here and there drastically

increased dopamine levels (like those first couple of weeks after a t-break)...

But longterm use WRECKED the dopamine system. It

takes the baseline down to almost nothing, and the slight increase in dopamine you get from THC barely moves the needle compared to your normal levels prior to letting weed into your life.

And when you have drastically low dopamine levels, guess what comes next. Actually, no need to guess, you've probably already experienced it, though you may not have recognized THC's root cause.

In the paper "Cannabis-Induced Hypodopaminergic Anhedonia and Cognitive Decline in Humans:

Embracing Putative Induction of Dopamine

Homeostasis", researchers report long-term use statistically leads to: "hypodopaminergic anhedonia (depression),

cognitive decline, poor memory, inattention, impaired learning performance, reduced dopamine brain response-associated emotionality, and increased addiction severity"

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt 2021.623403/full

Depression, feeling slow, forgetfulness... This is a laundry list of the issues you are probably facing right now.

So in short, the more THC you consume over time, the worse off your dopamine system will be. Less dopamine means life feels empty UNLESS you smoke,

in which life feels like emptiness +1.
Now what about the ADHD aspect? Why are people with ADHD (like myself) even worse off? In the paper, "Attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder

and reward deficiency syndrome, (https://www.ncbinlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2626918/)

researchers highlight that people with ADHD suffer from low dopamine already. That is why things like focus, concentration, persistence, and achieving goals come so hard.

Our 'reward systems' are all jacked up.

So even without any THC, our baseline dopamine is extremely low. Add in a few weeks of smoking daily, and that drops down to almost nothing. So is this an anti-THC post? No.

What can you do instead? First things first, stop the daily smoking. I have found that absolutely nothing gets me to stop like a small amount of psychedelics. More than a "microdose" but less than a macro. Barely enough to see visuals. After about 45 minutes I am instantly released from any hold it has over me because I am being washed over by the intense raw truth about what it is doing to my life.

I am not advocating this, only sharing my experience. Second issue that holds people back is the week or so of hell that comes with stopping cold turkey. Guess what, this is an optional experience! I have found the peptide solution Cerebrolysin to absolutely eradicate that experience. Again, not advocating, but sharing what has worked for me.

The other plus of Cerebrolysin for my ADHD brethren is it has solid research around its effectiveness with ADHD.

Once your dopamine system has adjusted, after about 15 days, you have the option to smoke 1 or 2 times a week. How you keep yourself to that will be tricky, because, if you have ADHD, that dopamine boost will feel like such an incredibly positive experience and

you'll want to do more...

But remember who you can be without it, and what you are destined to struggle through with it in your life. In closing, now is the time for your break. I believe in you and the person you can become once you have a healthy relationship with THC.

FOREVA

3y

very good post, i really appreciate it. i myself struggle a lot with depression & ADHD and weed used to be my crutch. for almost a year now i’ve only been smoking on weekends which has made my relationship with weed so much better. i still want to quit one day, but being abstinent throughout the week works for me as of now. good luck to all of you out there who wanna quit/limit their usage

Chanel1

3y

Remember how it felt smoking after a T-break? For at least a week or two, it probably felt nearly euphoric.

You have big ideas, you have insight into your life, you feel more active and inspired...

Then lady MJ starts to show her true self.

Suddenly you are smoking more each time, and more often. And that euphoric feeling fades into feeling "pretty good", but ONLY when stoned.

What happened?

It all comes down to dopamine, your body's "reward and motivation" chemical, and if you have ADHD, then you are in even more trouble (more on this in a second)....

Research Paper, "The effects of

49-tetrahydrocannabinol on the dopamine system https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles /PMC5123717/

In this paper, researchers looked at the impact of marijuana on dopamine levels over time. What they found was, smoking a little bit here and there drastically

increased dopamine levels (like those first couple of weeks after a t-break)...

But longterm use WRECKED the dopamine system. It

takes the baseline down to almost nothing, and the slight increase in dopamine you get from THC barely moves the needle compared to your normal levels prior to letting weed into your life.

And when you have drastically low dopamine levels, guess what comes next. Actually, no need to guess, you've probably already experienced it, though you may not have recognized THC's root cause.

In the paper "Cannabis-Induced Hypodopaminergic Anhedonia and Cognitive Decline in Humans:

Embracing Putative Induction of Dopamine

Homeostasis", researchers report long-term use statistically leads to: "hypodopaminergic anhedonia (depression),

cognitive decline, poor memory, inattention, impaired learning performance, reduced dopamine brain response-associated emotionality, and increased addiction severity"

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt 2021.623403/full

Depression, feeling slow, forgetfulness... This is a laundry list of the issues you are probably facing right now.

So in short, the more THC you consume over time, the worse off your dopamine system will be. Less dopamine means life feels empty UNLESS you smoke,

in which life feels like emptiness +1.
Now what about the ADHD aspect? Why are people with ADHD (like myself) even worse off? In the paper, "Attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder

and reward deficiency syndrome, (https://www.ncbinlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2626918/)

researchers highlight that people with ADHD suffer from low dopamine already. That is why things like focus, concentration, persistence, and achieving goals come so hard.

Our 'reward systems' are all jacked up.

So even without any THC, our baseline dopamine is extremely low. Add in a few weeks of smoking daily, and that drops down to almost nothing. So is this an anti-THC post? No.

What can you do instead? First things first, stop the daily smoking. I have found that absolutely nothing gets me to stop like a small amount of psychedelics. More than a "microdose" but less than a macro. Barely enough to see visuals. After about 45 minutes I am instantly released from any hold it has over me because I am being washed over by the intense raw truth about what it is doing to my life.

I am not advocating this, only sharing my experience. Second issue that holds people back is the week or so of hell that comes with stopping cold turkey. Guess what, this is an optional experience! I have found the peptide solution Cerebrolysin to absolutely eradicate that experience. Again, not advocating, but sharing what has worked for me.

The other plus of Cerebrolysin for my ADHD brethren is it has solid research around its effectiveness with ADHD.

Once your dopamine system has adjusted, after about 15 days, you have the option to smoke 1 or 2 times a week. How you keep yourself to that will be tricky, because, if you have ADHD, that dopamine boost will feel like such an incredibly positive experience and

you'll want to do more...

But remember who you can be without it, and what you are destined to struggle through with it in your life. In closing, now is the time for your break. I believe in you and the person you can become once you have a healthy relationship with THC.

MyLeftBrain

3y

L-Tyrosine and L-Tryptophan can help restore the brain and dopamine/serotonin center

Failn_chill

3y

those worked for you personally?

MyLeftBrain

3y

They did.
Also L-Theanin

Failn_chill

3y

bet I might try. Been off weed for a few weeks now specifically for the dopamine s*** cause it got to a point where I didnt want to do anything at all if im not high.

Feelin way better now but I know Im not at my actual baseline yet and I plan on smoking like a few times a week in small amounts still, so hopefull those will speed up my recovery

plants

3y

things been goin way, way better since i quit. again. for like the hundredth time lmao

looking at myself in the mirror like

MyLeftBrain

3y

It really help with my recovery
L-Theanin in helps with angst and to many thought
L-Tyrosine help with energy and motivation
And L-tryptophan helps with mood and sleep.

Even after I drunk alcohol the recovery was way better and less painful, and that use to be pretty bad for me.

ghosting

3y

shifting to weekends only