Dec 31, 2022
FlapheadGod damn right and in almost 11 years on this site it’s been like 4 times total anyone’s recognized it including right now
Dec 31, 2022
CutiePieHoleSo shes talking about a specific person? Ur telling me this isnt a hate crime towards a whole gender?!
Never said it was lmao
- Flaphead 🎧Dec 31, 2022·1 reply
HaroldsChickensome days I don't even listen to music
Granted I’m an electronic fan first and foremost but I genuinely mostly listen to instrumental music most of the time these days lol
Dec 31, 2022·2 replieslet's leave s***ty clickbait articles from irrelevant magazines in 2022
- Dec 31, 2022·2 replies
I’ll be waiting on Rolling Stones “let’s leave violence and d*** dealing music in 20xx” article tho.
Don’t be a media publications run by crackers and think you can have a voice on what should and shouldn’t be included in hip hop while you continuously rank Pusha T albums highly and do articles praising King Von.
An article like this isn’t problematic, it’s just the fact that it’s disingenuous and conveniently timed to act like they actually give a f*** when they don’t.
Only reason they even do a story like this is because of the Meg s***. Futures brand has been misogyny for a minute and RollingStone literally praised his album THIS year. What changed their minds? But now they doing a 180? Why he lumped in with Tory?
- Dec 31, 2022
smells like garbage
- Dec 31, 2022·1 reply
Rolling Stone as a magazine could disappear tomorrow and nobody would give a single f***
not sure why they think their opinion matters as an organization on a culture that doesn’t respect them.
- Dec 31, 2022Spice is Stone
b****es aint s*** but hoes and tricks is on the chronic from 1993.
rap is rap and art is art. its all art. mfs can speak and express however they want.This post tripped me out thought u were quoting beez in the trap but got the lyrics wrong or somethin
orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022rise zeroThis is love not objectification
You right
- Dec 31, 2022·1 replyFlaphead
Granted I’m an electronic fan first and foremost but I genuinely mostly listen to instrumental music most of the time these days lol
like a future album or drake album I will listen to around the time to understand the memes. Then maybe gym but am I listening to either all year round and like "WOW HE SPEAKING THE GOSPEL" not really lol its club music.
Dec 31, 2022This gender war on social media is wild cause most men and women don't hate on each other irl
- Flaphead 🎧Dec 31, 2022HaroldsChicken
like a future album or drake album I will listen to around the time to understand the memes. Then maybe gym but am I listening to either all year round and like "WOW HE SPEAKING THE GOSPEL" not really lol its club music.
Yep same here, and there are plenty of rap projects that I really love and return to, but… not necessarily those lmao
Bernie X 🙊Dec 31, 2022Spice is Stonelet's leave s***ty clickbait articles from irrelevant magazines in 2022
Yea I’m ashamed I contributed to this thread getting a 30 piece
- orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022HaroldsChicken
S*** Young Thug did that s*** too but s*** wins grammys and rolling stone has applauded before.
( this post can't be used in a court case)
F***in crazy
- orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022Flaphead
I appreciate it but honestly I don’t think I know anything more to say on the topic man. It’s a horrible dynamic but we can’t kid ourselves into thinking we’re not part of it
Dec 31, 2022·2 repliesFlapheadI go through the same thought processes and let me talk it through a sec. It’s that and the suicide talk for me, especially from people like Uzi with the whole heaven’s gate s***. I’ve been the kid finding myself romanticizing my depression and feeding into the intrusive thoughts because my favorite artists did it too. I’ve known people who’ve taken their own lives and I know how much pain it causes. I also have a cousin in and out of rehab from benzos so hearing everyone in a club talking about “I did half a xan thirteen hours til I land” and a million other songs like it’s fun and casual really gets to me sometimes.
At the same time… art isn’t art without depiction of the darkest parts of the human condition. I get frustrated, but I’m not about to pretend that we’re better off without it ever being discussed. If songs stopped talking about the 27 club or not making it past 21 tomorrow, kids would still be dying. What I wish artists would be a bit more conscious of is the thin line between shock value and glamorization. It’s hard to listen to Juice WRLD for obvious reasons now, and a big part of that is because he wasn’t subtle in his lyrics. But how can you blame a kid who effectively killed himself by living the portraits he painted? A literal kid. He was 21. That’s a year younger than a kid in my college class was when he killed himself.
So where’s the line? I said earlier that a lot of the time I’m just not in the mood to hear Future talk about misogynistic s*** like we haven’t heard it a million times over the years, but his contributions to d*** abuse normalization in rap music are a similar dynamic. But I’ve sung the chorus of Mask Off a million times without thinking about it. What’s worse, creating the art or consuming it without thinking twice? If Future lived that life, who’s to tell him not to talk about it? If we’re going to stream it, who’s to tell him not to sell it? We’re not innocent in this dynamic and the best I’ve been able to do personally is be honest with myself about it.
Thanks for a very vulnerable and thoughtful reply.
I've been the person at the end of their rope that needed hopeless emo s*** to get me through so I'm the last person to tell someone not to listen to that art or to not create that art. Right at the beginning of this article the author praises hip hop for the wide variety of scenarios it can accommodate and it should stay that way.
What I WANT is for these artists making their fortunes off depression and d*** use to offer a little bit of light, critique or nuance to their experiences, but the problem with that is that it's ultimately an unrealistic expectation. The person behind the song may never have found those things to write about them. We're not all at the same point in life. Kids take shelter in that hopelessness because it's what they feel.
Ultimately this is a discussion that's been going on since Columbine and long before...parents need to parent and can't deflect blame onto rappers. But I do hope the survivors from this generation of emo rap find their peace and express that artistically.
Dec 31, 2022Bernie XNiggas in the 70s were coming home from the steel mills to beat the absolute f*** out they wives then got dressed to go listen to disco music all night
Dec 31, 2022I mean....this is reactionary and clearly driven by the Tory/Meg trial.
West Coast hip hop in the 90's was 10 times more "misogynistic" than any rap album in 2022.
Of course, it's a new era but rap's toxicity is part of what makes it so raw. Not to mention Future and Drake both ironically have big female fanbases.
- orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022·1 replySpice is Stone
on her loss drake also supports abortion and stuff but lets pick and choose to fit our narrative. the one bar wasnt even about ice spice
rolling stones is full of p3d0s and the magazine couldnt be much better
One bar supporting abortion doesn't counteract the other numerous misogynistic bars.
Lol my nigga what you talking bout
Let's give him a cookie for saying 'I blow a half a million on you hoes, I'm a feminist' while we at it
e t 👽Dec 31, 2022Thanks Rolling Stone. From now on I’m only listening to this song and others like it
Who’s with me?
- Dec 31, 2022HaroldsChicken
I guess where I get confused is misogny is terrible do not get me wrong and its not whataboutism but saying "bitch", encouraging d*** use and openly saying you killed someone or would feel like 3 different ball parks
so what happens if you remove all the hate from music or rap?
What happens if you remove the violence and threats of violence against one another, the misogny and the encouraging d*** use
It's just conditioning. Writer's that are in the mainstream cherry pick on whatever topics they decide to be divisive
Making an argument against human behavior, without offering alternatives, and more importantly pointing the blame is classic eugenic tactics. Speaking on a culture they couldn't live in comfortably is beyond disrespectful, it's destructive to our culture. Because no matter how violent, misogynistic, and/or misandrist the innovators of this culture are the most empathetic peoples on this planet.
- Dec 31, 2022·1 replyorangetcovid
One bar supporting abortion doesn't counteract the other numerous misogynistic bars.
Lol my nigga what you talking bout
Let's give him a cookie for saying 'I blow a half a million on you hoes, I'm a feminist' while we at it
Shout out Roe v Wade
Meg still a lying b**** tho
- Dec 31, 2022·1 reply
Like is Snoop Dogg going to lose his show with Martha Stewart for all his misogynistic 90's bars or just the rappers who chose the wrong side of the Meg trial?
- orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022
soapmanwunI just peeped Brady's story I don't think it's that wild tbh we just live in more cynical times. If this was 60 years ago I don't think we would think it was weird
A father wouldn't show that kind of love 60 years ago
- orangetcovid 👌🏿Dec 31, 2022Spice is Stone
let's leave s***ty clickbait articles from irrelevant magazines in 2022
