she said there's innocents on both sides
There was innocent Germans during the Holocaust, too lol
@Synopsis consistently misquoting that twitter link
What Synopsis has been trying to share lmao
https://twitter.com/KumarsSalehi/status/1392610394015899648thank you jesus lol.
Damn I didn't think peoples thought of Israel is so extreme.
I think the purpose of Israel I just to have a country for the Jewish people. It all depends on who is in the office. Unless someone can find me a source like
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
where the goals of the Israeli government is as clear as the one of Hamas.
I understand why there is Israel - to give home to the Jewish people.
You can't just abolish Israel, that would cause so much more chaos than there is right now. The 1947 UN rule pretty much establish Israel as a Nation. I think the main argument now is the 1967 borders right?
The purpose of Israel is to establish a homeland for Jewish people. It's not to just to make a homeland or else they wouldn't be so pressed for the palestinan land. they want to establish the homeland in the Land of Israel for religious purposes.
In order to do that, they're doing it at the expense of the natives who already lived there and had their own society already going on.
All of the land that belongs to Israel was taken, not brought, not found, taken.
And u can abolish israel, it's not like the people of Israel are so far removed from their origins, UN, us, and European nations can facilitate the people moving back to those places. Or even some of the people of Israel can still live in that land but under Palestinian rule
"Israel Is the Nation-state of Jews Alone"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/world/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-indictment.html
homie also doesn't really want the two state solution
Okay yea thats f***ed, hes part of the problem
that’s crazy
But when is my school debt gonna be erased
different, unrelated issue
would you have asked this out of the blue in a thread about George Floyd’s murder last year?
genuinely curious. can someone please explain to me why this is a bad statement? Twitter / Reddit / IG is where I expect to see the most dumbed down version of any story, and usually the simplistic version of a political argument that's told on there is the version that doesn't actually fly in the real world
for example, Twitter / Reddit is where things like Bernie Sanders, "defund the police," and Elizabeth Warren were popular, but those things are very unpopular (nationally) in the real world. "Free Palestine" feels that same way
It's my (very basic) understanding that Hamas shoots rockets at Israel, and Hamas shoots these rockets from places where Palestinian civilians reside. So when Israel shoots back, they hit Palestinian civilians. I don't understand the history that much apart from knowing that Israel was founded after WW2 because Jews wanted a home nation to be able to defend Jews worldwide so there'd never be another Holocaust
The UK gave Palestinian land to the Jewish Zionists Federation in the Balfour Declaration in 1917 as a way to ally before the War. To this day UK still supplies Israel with military weaponry to suppress Palestinians
oh lmfao i thought i accidentally deleted the H the first time, not that i f***ed up the copying in general
here’s a timeline of events for you
1. Palestinians live in Palestine
2. Israelis come to Palestine & tell the Palestinians to leave their homes or die
3. Israelis continue to do this for decades while backed with billions of dollars from the US
4. whenever Palestinians attempt to not die, the US propaganda machine paints Palestinians as terrorists when Israel is literally committing genocide
so Palestinians were on the land before Israel and Israel pushed them out after WW2?
Actually I just googled and I guess it was WW1 (Balfour Declaration). So the international community just decided this land was Israel's?
different, unrelated issue
would you have asked this out of the blue in a thread about George Floyd’s murder last year?
no because it’s American soil
Don’t give a s*** about other countries especially if they don’t care about us in fact they despise us.
I’ve noticed people trot this pic out when they’ve been called out for hypocrisy
In any case I dont think there is any ethical consumption under capitalism and I think this overall thread is rage p***
This thread moved on from Rihanna after a few pages, it's not rage p*** but really an interesting discussion about the situation even though unfortunately it showed there's a lot of pro genocidal people on this website. Kind of sad to see honestly, I can't believe this many people defend Israel
Also that picture is the perfect representation to your post, it's only hypocrisy if you see in black and white but ignore the grey
yes i should feel sorry for palestinians who let hamas use them to destroy israel instead of taking the money they spend on rockets and bombs and help their own people
I don’t think this line of thinking has been, or ever will be, a productive course of discussion on how both sides can come to an amicable resolution.
I respect your opinion but respectfully disagree.
There is no amicable solution to be had. Israel is executing a genocide. They have been for decades. The US has supported that genocide. The time for an amicable solution is done. World nations either step in and forcibly stop Israel or Palestine is done for.
The UK gave Palestinian land to the Jewish Zionists Federation in the Balfour Declaration in 1917 as a way to ally before the War. To this day UK still supplies Israel with military weaponry to suppress Palestinians
why was it the UK's land to give? I presume they used force to move the Palestinians out? also when does Hamas shoot rockets? Just whenever they want? Anyway it seems very complex. But I understand America is aligned with Israel, and there are lots of Jewish people who have power in the music / entertainment business, so that is gonna shade what stars say
so Palestinians were on the land before Israel and Israel pushed them out after WW2?
Actually I just googled and I guess it was WW1 (Balfour Declaration). So the international community just decided this land was Israel's?
yes
it’s a clear-cut case of genocide, and the US pours billions of dollars into Israel in order to continue this ethnic cleansing
the only solution is to give Palestine all that land back. otherwise, the literal fascists occupying that land will continue slaughtering the Palestinians.
yes i should feel sorry for palestinians who let hamas use them to destroy israel instead of taking the money they spend on rockets and bombs and help their own people
imagine building infrastructure like hospitals in Palestine just to be bombed again by Netanyahu. oh wait they did.
so Palestinians were on the land before Israel and Israel pushed them out after WW2?
Actually I just googled and I guess it was WW1 (Balfour Declaration). So the international community just decided this land was Israel's?
It's not that simple. @op is kinda being dishonest. It's a long read but I plead everyone to read this s***. It's neutral asf.
long story short: Europe f***ed over everybody and they still dodging accountability til this day for their part in the Skyes-Picot agreement.
yes
it’s a clear-cut case of genocide, and the US pours billions of dollars into Israel in order to continue this ethnic cleansing
the only solution is to give Palestine all that land back. otherwise, the literal fascists occupying that land will continue slaughtering the Palestinians.
but then where would the Israelis go? anyway I guess people much smarter than we are have been unable to find a solution