Exactly

I also think that the respective albums played a part in it as well.

Morale was divisive, some people love it a lot and some people strongly dislike it. But regardless, it had bite and it was memorable. People still reference it 3 years later.

2000 was a sequel to the classic mixtape 1999, but it lacked the bite and cutting edge energy that 1999 had. It played it VERY safe. No one really disliked it but no one really talks about it much either. The Forever Story by JID gets referenced way more for example.

Exactly lmao if I’m Joey I’m lowkey mad that they responding to me instead because I’m in the same class with Kendrick basically (although Daylyt is a battle rap legend)

Ask Dot about Killuminati Pt 2 like it wasn’t one of the countless control responses that didn’t warrant a response

I mean it’s cool he feels himself but genuinely, there’s a reason Kendrick has slept at night without ever needing to respond to Joey Bada$$

why cant ray vaughn try to make a great album? he doesn't have a gkmc or a 1999 in his cataogue. I blame yall and tde for gassin him up

Ray winning rn

Oh that was the character Iris played by Sophie Thatcher in a movie called Companion. Worth a watch

If he Joey wanted to lean into 2000, it should have been Just Blaze, Bink, Rockwilder styled beats instead of that Neo dust s***

Yes I agree. Since 1999 leaned so heavily towards gritty 90s beats, it would’ve been a clever stylized choice to rap over 2000s NY production. The Statik Selekta production he favored for the majority of the album I found to be…bland honestly. Being a boom bap beat doesn’t automatically make it good.

His rapping skill also took a noticeable decline after AABA though and although he’s recovered it somewhat recently, it was evident that something was lacking on his end with the majority of 2000.

It's his fault for entertaining them. Ray is young & hungry. Of course he's going to try to get a bigger artist's attention. Joey should have learned from Kendrick to not respond to people lower on the food chain.

What you mean? He just released a very good album.

great /= very good

I mean that's subjective, but it's not like he's not putting out quality music on his own.

He’s just trolling he doesn’t actually care

i mean its not though, you said yourself is just very good. I didn't tell you not to call him album great

He needs to do a Burden of Proof type of album like Benny

He's just raw talent right now TDE still developing him. They took years before they really launched Doechii lol

Yep

i dont disagree with this my man i'm saying i dont remember doechii doing the diss/clout chase to achieve her success
dot gave us gkmc before he gave us control

Hell yes. A missed opportunity

It’s a dope tape but it’s nowhere near GKMC or 1999

Yeah I thought 2000 was gonna be on some Blueprint type s***

Not feeling the finals

"That ceo, see he old" line was weak

Yeah I mean I'm not saying it's a classic, but he's certainly making an effort towards creating quality music. GKMC is a once a decade type classic. Not every rapper is capable of making that.

Joey was RAPPING

He def got some talent. Him studying songwriting and working with amazing producers might get him somewhere further. Right now, he's in a weird tier where's not beloved like Black Hippy members, SZA or Say and doesn't have the underdog push like Doechiii does. But people are responding more favorably to him then Reason, who was the worst signee of TDE for a...reason