TheFader

7mo

Jay Z released 8 straight #1 albums from 1998 to 2004, at least one every single year

From 1999 to 2002, he had the (at the time) record for the most consecutive weeks charting on the Hot 100 for a rapper, a record that wasn’t broken until 2011 by Wayne

ThuggaBe

7mo

Ok, you a JAY-Z stan, we get it

LikewhoIsHe

7mo

That’s because they had to lmao

If you in my age range and even below
We didn’t grow up in a world where white music dominated. Rap was thriving

In fact I look down on niggas who had to” get into rap”

Niggas not born in this s***?

deleteduser579

7mo

These threads go in circles because no one can even decide whether they’re talking about the mainstream or the underground, and then if you dare say anything about the mainstream there’s always a nigga with a laundry list of hipster artists to show you rap is actually perfectly fine and you’re not “tapped in”

Snoozefest of a discussion honestly

Andre Jaquet

7mo

He doesn’t even rap remotely like Carti lol it’s not even like he’s a mainly rage artist it in the god damn songs that u clearly haven’t even opened to be making such a hollow baseless critiques like my god dawg if u say Uzi or something that makes more sense but the only similarity to Carti over anyone else on this list is like he picks rage beats sometimes and they are on the same label, since when was Carti rapping slow as hell over deftones samples dawg it’s not technically it’s just flat out wrong and you don’t know what your talking about

Lone was on what he was in his opium before Carti found him the only thing that changed is his budget and he did a bit more rage

GIVE ME ONE CARTI VERSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE EXPIRATION DATE RIGHT NEOOWWWWW

And I don’t make that kind of music dummy don’t assume s*** I make boom bap beats most commonly my music is out there what’s that about I don’t think I’ve ever even made a proper rage beat other than twice

it may be stuck to u that’s something u can feel it doesn’t mean it’s stuck to other people it’s not relevant even to the initial claim, yes these guys all take musical influence outside of hip hop they will tell you that so will ppl around u and I can accurately tell you where it’s seen all u have to give me is just meaningless b****ing about wah wah my old ass doesn’t like s*** not made for me u don’t have to like it dawg no one asked u to nor does anyone care for ur long winded rant shaking ur first at the clouds don’t act like that makes what u have to say somehow any more superior lol

deleteduser579

7mo

These threads go in circles because no one can even decide whether they’re talking about the mainstream or the underground, and then if you dare say anything about the mainstream there’s always a nigga with a laundry list of hipster artists to show you rap is actually perfectly fine and you’re not “tapped in”

Snoozefest of a discussion honestly

TheFader

7mo

I emphasize mainstream literally any time I make a comment about this topic and every single time I get some responding to me with a nigga like Ken Carson

Like dog come on

Andre Jaquet

7mo

Ken Carson is mainstream btw his last album was #1 in the country and his new single out streamed offset’s entire new album

TheFader

7mo

Carson’s album had the lowest sales figure for a #1 album in America since It’s Almost Dry in 2022

Andre Jaquet

7mo

And it was still #1 in the country and his new song out streamed offset’s entire album even if there was better competition he’d be high on the chart
If I see someone listening to Ken Carson on their phone in public i am not even remotely phased
He’s mainstream bro

TheFader

7mo

The album fell to #33 in its second week

And was out of the Top 50 by its third week

Andre Jaquet

7mo

Yea. Mainstream.

TheFader

7mo

If “mainstream” means your new album freefalls out of the Top 50 within three weeks, then that is precisely the problem we are talking about when we discuss 2020s mainstream rap

Valentine

7mo

@op was or do you consider Swang to be a hiphop anthem? How does Nine Vicious sampling it make you feel?

Andre Jaquet

7mo

I’m a nine fan this song was trash u foul 4 dis

Valentine

7mo

I’m not tryna be foul, I asked a genuine question. you can go through the thread and see me defending these artists bruh. Relax

Andre Jaquet

7mo

It always has been
Do u consider 2011 rocky mainstream? He barley even cracked top 50 at all
What about Tyler pre Igor or flower boy

2020s the only era where being “mainstream” means u have to be a commercial juggernaut and having the #1 album in the country isn’t enough. The guy is clearly big enough. Unless we gonna go back and fourth like twitter pop divas about rap I guess.

notbrock

7mo

They keep that “what about destroy lonely and Ken Carson” s*** loaded up

Andre Jaquet

7mo

ok what mythical new artists do u wanna discuss tho since its only specific ones ur thinking of
I guess glorilla, bigxtheplug, sexxy redd, latto? But those make club music. It’s like me in 2012 being like ah man waka flocka, ok da juiceman, 2 chainz, rick Ross needa listen to dif music

We could do doechii, jid, MIKE whoever

Idk it jsut seems like a very selectively specific thing ur talking about then that isn’t representative of modern hip hop rly

TheFader

7mo

Rocky did not release a project for sale in 2011.

His debut album sold 139K and debuted at #1 before streaming.