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  • Jakarta Connect

    the experience of finding new music sucks now days and i just thought recently that theres never been a time in history where music is so accessible. Its literally cheaper than water. And the access to entry is 100x easier

    you know how difficult it was for a rapper to make and break a record up until 2012?

    music is basically background music at this point

    Yep that’s the goal

    In the same way access to information has made us dumber than ever

    Instant music access has devalued it

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    WRU

    fd signifier is a moron and his music knowledge and taste is completely irrelevant and not even close to be an alternative

    shawn cee is doing his thing also this is probably the first time someone mentioned shawn cee in any positive light in the last however many years

    the last guy you mentioned aint made a video in two years

    Yeah i cant lie i just watch fd every now and then when im making beats and he got a long vid to have in background and i only saw those other niggas in passing or on twitter

    I fw Open mike eagle too tho

  • raps

    Yeah i cant lie i just watch fd every now and then when im making beats and he got a long vid to have in background and i only saw those other niggas in passing or on twitter

    I fw Open mike eagle too tho

    Open Mike makes some dope tunes too

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    Every time we say this s*** is dead a new era spawns.

    Back during the ringtone era Nas was on that Hip Hop is dead s*** and the blog era came into full effect.

    I seen Yeat and Carti perform in Romania and 100k people knew songs word for word.

    Its not dead its just not as visible as it used to be and that is all due to lack of backing by labels.

    Hip Hop labels are dying.

  • VLONE-core music becoming a main direction for younger generations back in 2017-2018 was a mistake

    Led to big amount of wannabe playboi carti's with no longevity whatsoever and influx of hypebeast fans who care more about vibes, aesthetic and fashion bs instead of actual rapping ability

  • BonelessWings

    Every time we say this s*** is dead a new era spawns.

    Back during the ringtone era Nas was on that Hip Hop is dead s*** and the blog era came into full effect.

    I seen Yeat and Carti perform in Romania and 100k people knew songs word for word.

    Its not dead its just not as visible as it used to be and that is all due to lack of backing by labels.

    Hip Hop labels are dying.

    What’s the new era looking like boneless

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    there's still exciting rap music coming out, but it is going through a major identity crisis rn and it's kind of lacking leadership with its artistic direction atm

    in the 2010s we had a lot of inspiring figures in the mainstream, most notably Kanye, who would help reinvent and push forward the genre and make it one of the most exciting radical things to break through to a larger audience. it was always about bringing something new and different to a large audience.

    I think a major turning point is that in 2018 rap officially became the bestselling genre in the world and with that its whole self-perception of being underground became very contradictory.

    more of a hot take but another thing I see over these past years is how this image of America leading the world stage etc under this second Trump administration has completely flipped to US straight up not even making pretenses anymore about being the villain. and whether or not you like it rap culture is very wrapped up in rags to riches, american dream culture. post-BLM there's also a lot more awareness of all these insidious mechanics of systematic racism or of generally toxic culture in rap regarding misogyny and other s*** too. whether or not you even actively think about this stuff, these discourses hang over us all and as an artist it makes it increasingly weird to navigate the genre.

    it's a lot of factors coming together but the mainstream rn is in fact completely vapid and an empty shell of what rap set out to be, the true spirit of it is only living on in regional and underground scenes like DMV or outside the US - the UK scene rn is lowkey more innovative and Palestine got one of the most exciting scenes in the world... I'm not worried about it, reinvention is the nature of the game and I see it as a good thing that there's such a heavy downward trend rn, it's rife breeding ground for something new and better.

  • Harlem

    summarize the points made. nobody wants to actually watch the video.

    objectively there is plenty of data pointing to a significant mainstream decline in recent years

    He doesn’t really make any points about why he thinks rap isn’t in a decline

    He says that’s it’s not true because it’s still the most consumed genre in the world, ignoring that the vast majority of its consumption is of older music, and then he spends the rest of the video talking about other genres’ stats

  • Jakarta Connect

    GTA the last monocultural moment

    I disagree. There are plenty of films that are still monocultural. The domestic box office this year is projected to surpass $10B for the first time since 2019

  • Harlem

    summarize the points made. nobody wants to actually watch the video.

    objectively there is plenty of data pointing to a significant mainstream decline in recent years

    It’s like 8 minutes dude

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    BonelessWings

    Every time we say this s*** is dead a new era spawns.

    Back during the ringtone era Nas was on that Hip Hop is dead s*** and the blog era came into full effect.

    I seen Yeat and Carti perform in Romania and 100k people knew songs word for word.

    Its not dead its just not as visible as it used to be and that is all due to lack of backing by labels.

    Hip Hop labels are dying.

    It’s all becoming much cheaper due to there being no money in it

    Back in the early 2000s the weed carriers of crews were getting their own Albums with big features backed by expensive music vids and promo

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    d***ged out twinks moaning on instrumentals gotta go that's simply not music

  • Audemar

    Ik yall hate him but

    !https://youtu.be/8dtqpBhVEgM?is=g4k7nxDWM0l-5s5B

    Bro is totally disingenuous with his arguments. He just plays the heel for views

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    It is on the quality rapper front which then supports why the sales are lower

    Everyone can keep coping and watch it die more or find some better rappers lol

  • quadra

    It is on the quality rapper front which then supports why the sales are lower

    Everyone can keep coping and watch it die more or find some better rappers lol

    Huge market for background slop

    That’s where the money is.

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    Rap Media is Dying..Record Labels are Dying..and the Internet is Dead

    But Rap is not dying. Rap is evolving.

    The main reason a decline happened is because of media, the internet, and labels.

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    dundis

    d***ged out twinks moaning on instrumentals gotta go that's simply not music

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    Should the health of hip hop be determined by its mainstream popularity?

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    Less suburbans listening and making threads about it declining yeah

    Never finna die in the hood

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    lonny860

    Rap Media is Dying..Record Labels are Dying..and the Internet is Dead

    But Rap is not dying. Rap is evolving.

    The main reason a decline happened is because of media, the internet, and labels.

    Evolving to what? If you don’t make s*** playboi carti clone music you’ll never blow up in 2026

  • Troy Ave Stan

    Less suburbans listening and making threads about it declining yeah

    Never finna die in the hood

    The hood jus listening to old s*** too lol

    Them mfs ain’t BUMPIN youngboy anymo

  • Jim legxacy is alive so rap is alive

  • Audemar

    Ik yall hate him but

    !https://youtu.be/8dtqpBhVEgM?is=g4k7nxDWM0l-5s5B

    Bro stop please. This isn't the answer. I rather support shawncee

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    Hullstar

    Should the health of hip hop be determined by its mainstream popularity?

    Kinda has to be when it was the cultural mover in the mainstream from 2008 to 2021. White people moved back to pop or country again. Kids are supporting worse rageslop hip-hop for lulz. And hip-hop artists are begging to be streamers to be paid.

    Maybe R&b can make a splash into the mainstream again? I know there's a lot of suburb rock and pop sounds emerging hard from YouTube as well.