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Valentinedo you only see streaming numbers or do you see other things as well like physical sales and Cole’s tour numbers that show the impact? Future’s tour with Metro was his first tour in 5 years and during that gap in time Cole was doing Offseason era, ROD 3/4 and Dreamville fest. how can we not say he’s more of a staple? cause of some streaming numbers?
I'm not denying that Cole is popular
Future just doesn't tour as often, but when he does he has no problem selling out venues
Cole is more popular when it comes to physical sales I'll give you that
- ·1 replyshaleirose
I'm not denying that Cole is popular
Future just doesn't tour as often, but when he does he has no problem selling out venues
Cole is more popular when it comes to physical sales I'll give you that
Futures tour with Metro is his first arena tour in career
Cole been doing arenas for a decade at that point. what are we even arguing anymore lmfao. Future was doing theaters for a decade and has only broken 222k once. Cole does that in his sleep
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ryuHBro they everywhere man a lot of rap fans prefer Cole over Kendrick and Drake
The apology killed some of that but it still exists even today
Born Sinner, FHD, 4YEO some of the most popular and talked about hip hop albums last decade but let ktt tell you Cole was a fluke who coasted by until the beef exposed him. Yap metropolis itt man
- ·edited·1 replyValentine
Futures tour with Metro is his first arena tour in career
Cole been doing arenas for a decade at that point. what are we even arguing anymore lmfao. Future was doing theaters for a decade and has only broken 222k once. Cole does that in his sleep
No it is not
Future has done arenas on numerous tours going all the way back to 2016
Again, you focusing on first-week sales when Future has more double-platinum albums than Cole does
·1 replyafterimageBorn Sinner, FHD, 4YEO some of the most popular and talked about hip hop albums last decade but let ktt tell you Cole was a fluke who coasted by until the beef exposed him. Yap metropolis itt man
It be the same lame ass niggas talking down on Cole, but they've been talking about him for nearly 20 years. S*** like a highschool club
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WRUnew yorkers opinions on rap stay undefeated
undefeated in their awfulness
Jokes on you I love a bunch of Southern rappers.
Just not TI.
- ·1 replyshaleirose· edited
No it is not
Future has done arenas on numerous tours going all the way back to 2016
Again, you focusing on first-week sales when Future has more double-platinum albums than Cole does
his was a supporting act to Summer Sixteen tour
he doesn’t do arenas. he has a collab tour with Meek in theaters and his own tours before that in theaters then no tour from 2019-2024 until Metro tour in arenas lol
i think future is a million times the artist cole is in pretty much every respect besides lyricism, but the big three is settled and has been for over a decade. the time to litigate this was in 2014-2018, the debate is history now.
- ·1 replySmacked Voodoo
Jokes on you I love a bunch of Southern rappers.
Just not TI.
A reminder that NY lives in people's minds rent free due to insecurity and their inferiority complex.
Cause what the f*** does me being from New York gotta do with me thinking TI is corny?
- ·1 replyValentine
his was a supporting act to Summer Sixteen tour
he doesn’t do arenas. he has a collab tour with Meek in theaters and his own tours before that in theaters then no tour from 2019-2024 until Metro tour in arenas lol
He did arenas on the Nobody Safe Tour (2017). Future Hndrxx Tour (2017), and One Big Party Tour (2023)
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Still nobody has answered why Future has more double-platinum albums than J. Cole does
- OP·2 repliesshaleirose
Still nobody has answered why Future has more double-platinum albums than J. Cole does
Because he intentionally makes music that is aimed at the casual listener and clubs/radio
He doesn’t have to balance being a hit maker with being a lyricist and coming up with concepts outside of hedonism which is generally popular subject matter among the masses
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It be the same lame ass niggas talking down on Cole, but they've been talking about him for nearly 20 years. S*** like a highschool club
You a big born sinner guy?
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Yuno Miles
Lil Baby
NBA Youngboy
·1 replyryuHBecause he intentionally makes music that is aimed at the casual listener and clubs/radio
He doesn’t have to balance being a hit maker with being a lyricist and coming up with concepts outside of hedonism which is generally popular subject matter among the masses
J Cole made work out dude
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2020s
Yuno Miles
Lil Baby
NBA Youngboy2020s based on who’s being listened to
Drake
Kendrick
Future - ·1 replyryuH
Bro they everywhere man a lot of rap fans prefer Cole over Kendrick and Drake
The apology killed some of that but it still exists even today
Just show me one
Then I’ll stop
- ·1 replyshaleirose
I'm still confused though because Future is still very much a part of the Kendrick/Drake/Cole class more than he's a part of the Thug/Travis class
Future was on the 2012 XXL Freshman lineup, one year after Kendrick was on it
Pluto dropped before GKMC and had big songs on it in Turn On The Lights and Tony Montana. (Tony even dropped in 2011 and Drake hopped on the remix that same year)
It was never about commercial dominance or what year they came up, nor was future not being apart of the big 3 concocted mainly due to white aversion to southern trap. You are putting on a bunch of qualifiers that isn’t why they were called “big 3”.
But like for your own personal list or ranking it’s cool
- ·1 replyryuH
Because he intentionally makes music that is aimed at the casual listener and clubs/radio
He doesn’t have to balance being a hit maker with being a lyricist and coming up with concepts outside of hedonism which is generally popular subject matter among the masses
He doesn’t have to balance being a hit maker with being a lyricist and coming up with concepts outside of hedonism which is generally popular subject matter among the masses
Kendrick Lamar has to balance this as well and he has more double-platinum albums than Future
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It was never about commercial dominance or what year they came up, nor was future not being apart of the big 3 concocted mainly due to white aversion to southern trap. You are putting on a bunch of qualifiers that isn’t why they were called “big 3”.
But like for your own personal list or ranking it’s cool
What’s it about
- ·1 replyshaleirose
He did arenas on the Nobody Safe Tour (2017). Future Hndrxx Tour (2017), and One Big Party Tour (2023)
And needed Bad and Boujee Migos and Barter 6 Thug who were either doing their own tours or co-headline tours
he’s not bigger than Cole or more of a staple. he’s huge in his own lane with Thug, Migos and them and that’s it
- Jim Halpert
What’s it about
It was always about how similar Drake/kendrick/cole came up out of the blog era and focus on lyricism.
Hip hop wasn’t even mega dominant on the charts yet until 2016 so this whole commercial talk retroactively putting future in seems forced. Cuz it was
Now if niggas wanna talk about who was commercial dominant or influence in the late 2010s that a whole another discussion (which future would rightfully be apart of)
- OP·1 replyJim Halpert
J Cole made work out dude
That’s one 15 year old song
- ryuH
That’s one 15 year old song
Okay j cole made aint that some s***
·2 repliesshaleiroseHas Future not been extremely dominant commercially throughout his career?
Third most #1 albums among all male solo artists ever
More streams than Cole on both Spotify and Apple Music (#3 on Apple Music and #17 on Spotify)
Third-most entries all-time on the Hot 100, behind only Drake and Taylor Swift
In the 2010s, cole album for album is stronger plus first week sales cole wins.
