How come every time someone says rap is dead it’s only talking about people who exist in the corporate-capitalist zeitgeist

Yeah no s*** a breakout star has mainstream appeal. What kind of star exists that doesn’t have mainstream appeal?

You spend all your time on this forum being miserable and unlikeable bro what kind of reciprocation are you really looking for

Rock famously got a lot better after it died right

all his content is about music

Just checked.

There is no consensus on this, let alone when rock died in the first place

Lmaooo bro All I asked was Graduation going back in the past by ignoring mid 2000’s snap/dance music and fast forward a few moments later nigga got a whole psychoanalysis of me in his back pocket

rap discourse in 2026 lmfaoo

I don’t care about a consensus

I Deleted my thread with my response but here’s that

No rapper with a lean gut will ever have mainstream appeal.

Mainstream rap has been putting out nothing but garbage for the past few years. Yeah, the genre is better off dead ... It's just a bad caricature of itself now.

Calling you a dusty miserable p**** is a whole ass psychoanalysis no wonder you think your opinion is worth s***

I think I worded my s*** wrong. I dont think hip hop will die per se like no other genre has ever died but the capability to produce stars and innovate is sadly directly related to how much mainstream appeal it has

You deleted? Goddamn bruh now I gotta retype my response

Youre going to get a million answers if your question can be framed a million ways

Well yeah because the cultural industry (“stars”) and its audience (the “mainstream”) are entirely captured by capitalism

If you think that Rock died in the 10s and it has gotten better I have something to tell you

Lmaooo Pretending to think that’s the post I’m referring to would be hilarious if you weren’t serious

Calm down and stop rushing to reply if you’re not gonna answer the original question lmao

The "get money" raps only get label support when they translate to "get money for us"

Thats the way it is so going full underground aint gont help the genre at all

What defines “helping the genre?” How exactly is letting Lyor Cohen, LA Reid, Larry Jackson, and Lucian Grange put our favorite artists in slave deals going to get this genre to the top?

Yeah and its sad s*** but thats how the whole entertainment industry is built

Innovation in my opinion. You can have a popular genre like country but s*** been sounding the same to me for ever

If you want innovation you’re not getting it with a corporate boardroom in the conversation

Youre misrepresenting my whole point man, and making it seem like im pro label which i am definitely not.

I’m literally just following your logic