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  • Sep 8
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    HaroldsChicken

    no you just act like that with people that cant ban or mute you. Again respecting authority when I first talked to you I didnt insult you at all and you immediately got the uppity energy because you act like that.

    Please mute me!

  • Sep 8

    This movie will in some level be copaganda . I disagree with Chris not really be reached out until the last minute. I dont hate Chris Hansen for what he did. Yes I get that it wouldnt just be a puff piece of him but hope it isnt a hit piece of him.

    they keep making it seem like he just did it for ratings or that he is some what nefarious. Just hoping it turns out well

  • Sep 8
    Unity

    My view is that what constitutes copaganda has more to do with certain tropes being on display than the amount to which those tropes contribute to the story. That's why I said I incorrectly worded my original post, because you're right, police procedurals ARE copaganda while The Batman only contains it in a small amount

    But it's the same for any propaganda. If I make a post to you with 5 sentences attacking your point and 1 attacking a made up version of your point, my post still contains a straw man even if it's not the central focus

    you explaining a strawman argument to a strawman

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    Please mute me!

    I dont have the power to. I would do a 10 minute time out when you clog the primetime thread with bullshit.

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    HaroldsChicken

    I dont have the power to. I would do a 10 minute time out when you clog the primetime thread with bullshit.

    To be fair I'm contributing to it as well

    I actually think it's rather healthy to have these discussions itt now because I'm sure they will come up again and then some once this movie comes out

  • Sep 8
    Unity

    To be fair I'm contributing to it as well

    I actually think it's rather healthy to have these discussions itt now because I'm sure they will come up again and then some once this movie comes out

    Healthy when he is talking to you. Not healthy when users are talking to anyone but a mod

  • Sep 8

    brother will never admit to being wrong ever so its like whats the point of even having a discussion

  • Sep 8
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    if the batman is copaganda then 95% of western movies are too lol

  • Sep 8

    since we can use threads to talk about anything off topic

    watch Godzilla Trailer in moments

  • Sep 8
    rustcohlestan2

    if the batman is copaganda then 95% of western movies are too lol

    has elements of copaganda doesnt make the entire movie copaganda as was mentioned. But some will consider the whole movie as a form of copaganda to each their own. You can still enjoy something that has elements of copaganda or pro military in it. Yes much of western movies arent doing a scathing critique of police, fascism, america or the military thats by design. None of what we are saying is shocking.

  • Sep 8
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    HaroldsChicken

    I dont have the power to. I would do a 10 minute time out when you clog the primetime thread with bullshit.

    Then block me

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    Then block me

    not wanting you to clog a thread with a defense of the batman in the primetime thread wont change if you are blocked. the person you are defending it to isnt even in the thread.

  • Sep 8

    I saw the batman early premiere before anyone on this site saw it and dont act like this

    Its a solid movie

  • Sep 8
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    Unity

    My view is that what constitutes copaganda has more to do with certain tropes being on display than the amount to which those tropes contribute to the story. That's why I said I incorrectly worded my original post, because you're right, police procedurals ARE copaganda while The Batman only contains it in a small amount

    But it's the same for any propaganda. If I make a post to you with 5 sentences attacking your point and 1 attacking a made up version of your point, my post still contains a straw man even if it's not the central focus

    I hear what you’re saying. My next question would be: how would a piece of media include cops that wouldn’t classify as copaganda or containing copaganda?

    Because the way you’re describing it, damn near every piece of media with cops in it is copaganda, which means that the word doesn’t mean anything anymore

  • Sep 8

    I am on the first page of The batman thread which occured 7 years ago.

  • HaroldsChicken

    not wanting you to clog a thread with a defense of the batman in the primetime thread wont change if you are blocked. the person you are defending it to isnt even in the thread.

    Block me

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    I hear what you’re saying. My next question would be: how would a piece of media include cops that wouldn’t classify as copaganda or containing copaganda?

    Because the way you’re describing it, damn near every piece of media with cops in it is copaganda, which means that the word doesn’t mean anything anymore

    HOPE just dropped cops are main characters it isnt copaganda

  • Sep 8
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    HaroldsChicken

    HOPE just dropped cops are main characters it isnt copaganda

    How is it not, based on how you’re classifying The Batman as containing copaganda?

    I saw Hope last night, all of the cops in the movies are the good guys

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    True copaganda is those endless police procedurals on cable television

    One good cop in a superhero film is not copaganda

    The cops literally save the f***in day in the Batman dude

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    How is it not, based on how you’re classifying The Batman as containing copaganda?

    I saw Hope last night, all of the cops in the movies are the good guys

    without spoiling the movie for others the cops do some incredibly stupid things throughout the movie and arent shown as perfect, fearless or infallible . It isnt just about corruption and even then lol there is a moment of suggested corruption

    "Copaganda is media or messaging designed to promote a positive image of law enforcement, shape public opinion in favor of the police, and minimize or excuse misconduct and systemic issue"

    they are dealing with monsters but no not every image of them is postiive within the movie

  • Sep 8
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    ImLikeThat

    The cops literally save the f***in day in the Batman dude

    That alone doesn’t make it copaganda

    Y’all are being extremely fast and loose with that word

  • Sep 8
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    HaroldsChicken

    without spoiling the movie for others the cops do some incredibly stupid things throughout the movie and arent shown as perfect, fearless or infallible . It isnt just about corruption and even then lol there is a moment of suggested corruption

    "Copaganda is media or messaging designed to promote a positive image of law enforcement, shape public opinion in favor of the police, and minimize or excuse misconduct and systemic issue"

    they are dealing with monsters but no not every image of them is postiive within the movie

    The cops in The Batman are not shown as perfect or infallible either

  • Sep 8
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    shaleirose

    That alone doesn’t make it copaganda

    Y’all are being extremely fast and loose with that word

    It makes it copaganda because the film showcases that to make the point that a broken system is still better than a societal reset which is their dilemma.

  • The Batman BEATS YOU OVER THE HEAD with the idea that the police are a broken system, but because a few cops help beat the villain at the end that equates to copaganda? Y’all are devaluing the meaning of the word

  • Sep 8
    shaleirose

    The cops in The Batman are not shown as perfect or infallible either

    Batman at times wouldnt even advance the plot without the police .

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