But i thought they were winning :'(
no ukrainians defending themselves against russian aggression does not make this a proxy war from the beginning, that's ridiculous
for the final time, ukraine wants to join nato precisely to stop this s*** from happening
russia will not just settle for a neutral ukraine
Geopolitics of this situation makes it a proxy war basically regardless of what Ukraine itself actually does
Ukrainians are so nice. They give cigarettes to the Russians they’ve captured and even light it for them. 🥺
Yeah fam the last time we said Nazis weren’t a big deal it was the 1930’s
And the last time we said arming right wing militias wasn’t a big deal it was Afghanistan in the 1980’s and iraq in the 2000’s
1) No correlation
2) Afghans might be speaking Russian rn if it wasn't for our intervention lol who knows
Ukrainians are so nice. They give cigarettes to the Russians they’ve captured and even light it for them. 🥺
the last cigarette
It’s officially supported by the government, highly publicized, and obviously more present than just one single unit
Got info on this? I’m not really informed
nato not helping ukraine basically guarantees russian victory and ukraine becomign a client puppet
im not saying anything else, just this is blatantly obvious
ISIS was 300 members in 2006. Leaving these things alone to fester and grow is what leads to consequences that people lie and say they couldn’t have foreseen
The writing is literally on the wall from the floor to the ceiling and y’all are holding your hands over your eyes
alright man
1) No correlation
2) Afghans might be speaking Russian rn if it wasn't for our intervention lol who knows
There is absolutely a historic precedent for this, and your second point shows you have no knowledge of history whatsoever
Shut the f*** up
1) No correlation
2) Afghans might be speaking Russian rn if it wasn't for our intervention lol who knows
no point number 2 is wrong
afghan victory was a matter of when not if
Nazis will never be victims. Not every Ukrainian is innocent nor justified in their goals and actions in this war
Sorry dude youre too far gone go touch some grass
I agree with you on the last paragraph especially, but I was specifically talking about ukraine in the current context, I'm sure you're right in things can change on a dime but I still believe those small neo-nazi's will easily be rejected by the larger population, I was browsing twitter and this came on a few minutes ago
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498003459118964736We'll just have to see I guess, what matters is what happens after the war that will decide how much the population really supports Zelensky.
the last cigarette
Apparently they didn’t kill ‘em. But man I’m sure that cigarette hit different lmao

@1887 coming itt to drop the most brain worms uneducated takes ever knowing full well he doesn’t know s***
Sorry dude youre too far gone go touch some grass
i agree with you 99% of the time but he isnt wrong
it's reasonable to not want azov to gain weaponry and power
what i do disagree with them on is that it's highly unlikely to result in an afghanistan style situation where azov take the role of taliban parallels
ukraine has stronger civil society, institutions, and democratically assented government afghanistan didnt have
the context is still extemely different
Respect to the people of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania helping Ukrainian refugees with shelter and food
nato not helping ukraine basically guarantees russian victory and ukraine becomign a client puppet
im not saying anything else, just this is blatantly obvious
I mean duh the country is like a quarter of Russia's size. I would guess NATO knows more involvement could lead to a bigger war
Respect to the people of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania helping Ukrainian refugees with shelter and food
https://time.com/6151880/ukraine-refugees-russia-romania/
Sorry dude youre too far gone go touch some grass
How. For not wanting weapoms to go to a government who will happily arm and publicize Nazis to advance their cause ?
Yeah and what you want is unrealistic so the actual situation is you gotta choose between the lesser evil
Either you indirectly arm 1000 Nazis that are gonna defend the country and take care of them after the war or you let a country of 44M people suffer
Again ignored by @americana
He's willing to gamble the lives of 44 million people because of 1000 Nazis while also expressing xenophobic thoughts yesterday
Hard decision have to be made in war
i agree with you 99% of the time but he isnt wrong
it's reasonable to not want azov to gain weaponry and power
what i do disagree with them on is that it's highly unlikely to result in an afghanistan style situation where azov take the role of taliban parallels
ukraine has stronger civil society, institutions, and democratically assented government afghanistan didnt have
the context is still extemely different
because it's true that azov is a drop in the ocean, and ukraine has a legitimate rallying point behind the official government
there wont be anywhere near as big a vaccuum as there was in afghanistan