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  • Feb 22, 2022
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    yeah but Marx work isn’t really summed up just as capital he had many more works like his examination of the French Commune where he would state the workers need to take over and abolish the old state machinery rather than just take it over. He also had many critiques for socialist parties of the time and what line they should take and why, and what lines communist parties should base themselves around.

    Zizek and Fisher works both are in the domain of cultural critique and i’m sorry at this point i don’t care about how finding nemo is a secret marxist film i just wanna be unionized

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    Feb 22, 2022
    spongebob

    yeah there's nothing reminiscent of the cold war at all about this

    you know thats not what im talking about man cmon. obviously you can discuss stuff if its directly related like that but theres a difference between that and the russia-ukraine thread just devolving to USA discussion etc.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Changeofheart

    I thought Putin was right wing, he is pretty anti lgbt

    he is

  • Feb 22, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

  • Feb 22, 2022

    ur avy truly communicates the american spirit imo

    at least mine, so, there's that.

  • Feb 22, 2022
    KOLLAPS

    im very tempted to just say yes but it depends on what we mean by oppression

    like for example, i think american slaves before emancipation had every moral right to revolt because they would have been on the defense

    where as i dont see modern day treatment of black people in america as violent enough to justify a full blown revolt

    where as i dont see modern day treatment of black people in america as violent enough to justify a full blown revolt

    Let’s be critical for a second. The modern day treatment of black people is not isolated for one, so you don’t have to think the modern day treatment justifies a revolt or not. It’s on a continuous line of treatment that was violent enough to justify a revolt for 90% of its time. Your argument only makes sense if it’s true that the treatment of black people for most of modern history suddenly stopped at one point, and the modern treatment is some new and different thing. I surely hope that isn’t your argument

    Nobody cares about “well it’s less violent now” when it was for so long and its ethos carries on today

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    like this is deadass how i be feeling about this s***

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Changeofheart

    I thought Putin was right wing, he is pretty anti lgbt

    He meant everyone left in the government lol words are funny

  • Feb 22, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    he is

    I misunderstood your comment lol

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    krishna bound

    I don't know if I'd really say it's that viable. A lot of the reason world wars happened last century wasn't just because of geopolitics in a vacuum, it was also because geopolitics and diplomatic relations as a whole were heavily uncoordinated and in a only nascently globalized world it was easier for conflict to emerge as a sort of domino effect. Stuff like the League of Nations only emerged post WW1 as an attempt to fix this issue and obviously immediatedly failed because, similar to now, it didn't actually work, but moreso because there was no actual economic incentive to retain normalcy, and everything was purely symbolic (imagine the UN (already symbolic enough as is) f there was no world/global economy yet).
    Right now there's no real chances of someone going to war with someone if their relative superpower allies don't because they're all on the same chain of command, it's not like in 1900 where all countries were so strikingly independent (relative to now) that geopolitical stability could be threatened arbitrarily at any given time.Like why would Japan go to war if the US doesn't, Japan relies entirelty on the US, same for SK, and inversely, same for NK to the US because of their protector state obviously being China. You can imagine if China didn't exist the US would afghanistan or iraq NK overnight - this is exactly why I pointed out earlier in the thread the US doing so to these countries was so effective; they virtually had no real protector states and were arbitrary in terms of wider geopolitics (Russia was not going to go to war over Iraq or Libya for example, it posed no material interest to them, even if symbolically allied). The same inversely goes for how the US is looking at stuff like Crimea or similar. Unless it comes from the upper-end of the superpower chain of command, everyone is going to just allow regional conflicts to take their natural turn, because there is no incentive otherwise for third parties to get involved beyond proxies or economics

    So basically Russia can steamroll Ukraine and we won’t do s***.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    He meant everyone left in the government lol words are funny

    Mfs be asking: "Are you left or right?"

    B**** I'm tired of getting LEFT on read

  • Feb 22, 2022
    spongebob

    Mfs be asking: "Are you left or right?"

    B**** I'm tired of getting LEFT on read

    and im Left

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    So basically Russia can steamroll Ukraine and we won’t do s***.

    "Zelenskyy complained that if the U.S. believes a Russian attack is imminent, then it should implement sanctions now. A reporter referenced his argument and asked, “If you believe Russian President VLADIMIR PUTIN has made up his mind, what leverage do you really have? Why not put those sanctions in place now?”

    Harris got tangled in her answers. “The purpose of the sanctions has always been and continues to be deterrence,” she said. “But let’s also recognize the unique nature of the sanctions that we have outlined. These are some of the greatest sanctions, if not the strongest that we’ve ever issued, as I articulated yesterday. It is directed at institutions — in particular, financial institutions — and individuals, and it will exact absolute harm for the Russian economy. And their government.”

    A reporter pressed her: “But if Putin has made up his mind, do you feel that this threat that has been looming is really going to deter him?”

    “Absolutely,” Harris said.

    But that answer contradicts repeated American predictions that Putin has already decided to invade.

    “As the president has said,” Harris told reporters just minutes after saying the threat of sanctions will deter Putin, “we believe that Putin’s made his decision. Period.”"

    the official stance is that they're gonna sanction russia but they've already committed to the sanctions even before anything has happened while also waiting to implement them so they can pretend they're doing anything while also at the same time just hoping to cause mass suffering to the people because they can't go to war over it.

    like they really cant do anything

    politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/02/20/harris-declares-unity-while-zelenskyy-accuses-appeasement-00010389

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    thats literally kamala's words in that interview

  • Feb 22, 2022

    its literally nato encroachment that is forcing putin to act lmao wdym biden reaches out to putin to stop it

    the sanctions are to act "as a deterrent" to a relatively necessary response to geopolitical aggressions - geopolitical aggressions that nato has initiated against their own word and of their own volition under no threat.

    what are you even saying

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    “They are trying to blackmail us again. They are threatening us again with sanctions, which, by the way, I think they will introduce anyway as Russia’s sovereignty strengthens and the power of our armed forces grows. And a pretext for another sanctions attack will always be found or fabricated. Regardless of the situation in Ukraine. There is only one goal - to restrain the development of Russia. And they will do it, as they did before. Even without any formal pretext at all. Just because we exist, and we will never compromise our sovereignty, national interests and our values. I want to say clearly and directly that in the current situation, when our proposals for an equal dialogue on fundamental issues have actually remained unanswered by the United States and NATO, when the level of threats to our country is increasing significantly, Russia has every right to take retaliatory measures to ensure its own security. That is exactly what we will do.”

    -putin literally today there's no "diplomacy" here.

    the sanctions and the nato encirclement go hand in hand as aggressive encirclement measures but like krishna said nobody is going to nuclear war over this so who gives a f***.

    i really dont get how you think this is like some deterrent diplomatic justice or some s*** when its all nato aggression

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    deadacc

    “They are trying to blackmail us again. They are threatening us again with sanctions, which, by the way, I think they will introduce anyway as Russia’s sovereignty strengthens and the power of our armed forces grows. And a pretext for another sanctions attack will always be found or fabricated. Regardless of the situation in Ukraine. There is only one goal - to restrain the development of Russia. And they will do it, as they did before. Even without any formal pretext at all. Just because we exist, and we will never compromise our sovereignty, national interests and our values. I want to say clearly and directly that in the current situation, when our proposals for an equal dialogue on fundamental issues have actually remained unanswered by the United States and NATO, when the level of threats to our country is increasing significantly, Russia has every right to take retaliatory measures to ensure its own security. That is exactly what we will do.”

    -putin literally today there's no "diplomacy" here.

    the sanctions and the nato encirclement go hand in hand as aggressive encirclement measures but like krishna said nobody is going to nuclear war over this so who gives a f***.

    i really dont get how you think this is like some deterrent diplomatic justice or some s*** when its all nato aggression

  • Feb 22, 2022

    honestly i think this conflict is practically already over and we’re just in the information war period of it but who knows my dream of dying in a ditch of Kyiv still beacons towards me

  • Feb 22, 2022
    space0cadet

    idk wtf this is