No, from an objective point of view the only superpower is the USA. China is getting there, but has not quite that status yet. Russia has military might, but is a dwarf economically. If we look at foreign policy I'd say China is - at this moment - also the 'most humane'

None of these motherfuckers are humane

want this to end just to see the post war s***show in both countries

Superpower is based on which countries have their own spheres of influence and thats definitely china and russia as well. Both expand militarily and economically across the world

I guess u could argue china being the most humane since they dont engage in invasive wars really but i think if we are to see the taiwan thing go down it would be very violent

that's fine the han settlers must be dealt with

Facts, but since we're arguing such a weird thing, I'd say foreign policy wise they are more than the other 2

But it's a dumb discussion anyway. In the end, they're all trash

I dont actually care about the ethics since I oppose inter-imperialist war on principle. but I won't stand for people comparing this or the xinjiang nothingburger to what is happening in gaza, as a palestinian i find both of these comparisons hideously offensive.

True

Eh imo the unipolar moment def died 2017-2019. One only needs to look at U.S. policy and behavior since to see that. Trump 1.0 came in asserting China as a near peer then launched geopolitical conflicts against it...Biden came in and asserted China is the only country with the intent to challenge and win conflict against the U.S.,and Trump 2.0 guys like Rubio (our SecState and National Security Advisor) have stated multiple times we're beyond just having 1 great power.

China is right there economically, technologically, militarily and in some sectors dominate singlehandedly. This won't stop. They could potentially not only defeat us in war, but have capabilities to wipe us off the planet. The reason we overlook it is because they're a restraint power that doesn't go on offense, similar to U.S. pre-WW2

this drone attack in Siberia is crazy

Yeah I feel like this conflict shows you have to include Russia, even if to a far, far lesser degree. The fact Russia might not only survive proxy conflict with NATO, but potentially swing U.S.-Russia negotiations to change Europe's security architecture kinda implies on its own Russia is a power. This wouldn't be acceptable in a strictly unipolar or bipolar world.

They're far closer in overall geopolitical power than CW-era economic challengers like Japan or West Germany ever were despite having a far smaller economy

everyone can defeat the US in a war, the taliban just did it a few years ago

I intentionally added a 2nd far more important point to that lol but also this is quite different. I get what you're saying tho.

Imo U.S. "loses" wars because it engages in random imperial adventures that it can just walk away from. It can always just leave Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.. and remain the exact same. None of these are existential threats that compromise U.S. power. Taliban survived and just picked up the pieces on U.S. leaving to prep for the next conflict. Those are baby wars compared to what U.S and China would be

U.S. and China would be fighting for the Pacific in a naval war (which U.S. hasn't fought in 80 years). Two nuclear powers with air power and advanced capabilities. If it were to lose that war, the entire international order politically, militarily and economically shifts overnight just like it did in 1945. Not to even mention potential losses of life, strikes on Japan, Australia, U.S. territories, etc..

*Also just to note i don't think this conflict will actually happen

Insane operation

^ psycho

^ actual Russian federal employee

what do you think zelenski means when he says he wants ukraine to be "a big israel"

Russias already a big israel

this is why this thread should be locked. yall just be saying anything

@sab pull the plug big bro. op is dead, no significant updates or news on the whole thing, no meaningful discussion for the last however many pages. might as well create a new peace talk thread later when those actually happen

are you stupid or something

zionist p****, hope you look over your shoulder in life

Russian bots and glazers really upset at a special operation destroying Russian military assets and not random civilians, yall are sick.

what do you think zelenski means when he says he wants ukraine to be "a big israel"