Stankie 🪑Feb 28, 2025Snowboy
Feb 28, 2025Funnily enough all the things Trump said about Zelenskyy and Ukraine more accurately applies to Netanyahu and Israel
Lord knows most of these American politicians are way too p**** to say that though.
Feb 28, 2025·2 replies
SilasIt looks like the main concern for Putin is the expansion of NATO and the EU towards Russia's borders.
If NATO and the Europe chills out on just letting everyone join NATO and spreading their influence, I don't think Putin will just start invading European countries.
As long as Putin is in charge, NATO and the EU should make it clear that ex Soviet states around Russia will not join NATO so Putin can calm down and sleep at night imo.
That's probably the best path to peace short term.
Hasn't this been a self-fulfilling prophecy though? Didn't Russia scare several neighbors into seeking membership?
Who really started the encroachment?
Feb 28, 2025ElricHasn't this been a self-fulfilling prophecy though? Didn't Russia scare several neighbors into seeking membership?
Who really started the encroachment?
Them poles blackmailled their way into NATO
Feb 28, 2025Smacked VoodooThat's nice. She still be wylin out and saying dumb s***, antagonizing people unprovoked, and should've been banned months ago.
u not wrong
Feb 28, 2025
Jimminy
bro i already know you dont know anything about ukraine, no need to brag
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replyElric
Ok sis
how do you oppose the war without opposing the aggressor I know this chaos is a ladder for America but just thinking of how the rest of Europe should react
they were both "aggressors". are you unfamiliar with the concept of inter-imperialist war? or do you believe if you were 18 and French and its 1912 you should die in a trench to protect from the germanic hoarde?
not every war is justifiable. the ukrainians have their own national chauvinism and irridentist claims. you actually dont have to fight for foreign capitalists.
- Feb 28, 2025Smacked Voodoo
That's nice. She still be wylin out and saying dumb s***, antagonizing people unprovoked, and should've been banned months ago.
I'll outlast you on this forum you dork. you aint even have a legitimate beef with me, youre just a male scumbag who openly hates women. get testicular cancer plz.
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replyElric
Hasn't this been a self-fulfilling prophecy though? Didn't Russia scare several neighbors into seeking membership?
Who really started the encroachment?
Russia may have scared them but the US needs to prevent them from having NATO membership no matter how Putin treats them for the sake of peace.
I know that sounds messed up to say but the United States and NATO can't protect or help everybody and they shouldn't continue to have a influence in the problems of every country.
They have to be selective in who they let in NATO and respect Putin's concerns.
because if the roles were reversed and we had Russia or China forces near our borders, the United States would go crazy too.
Feb 28, 2025
Smuchainedisgusting behaviour from trump and vance
- Feb 28, 2025·2 repliessnowboyrari
they were both "aggressors". are you unfamiliar with the concept of inter-imperialist war? or do you believe if you were 18 and French and its 1912 you should die in a trench to protect from the germanic hoarde?
not every war is justifiable. the ukrainians have their own national chauvinism and irridentist claims. you actually dont have to fight for foreign capitalists.
If I learned anything from the book you recommended it's that France was so embroiled in its own class war that they couldn't remotely form a united front against Germany
what choice would I have - Feb 28, 2025·1 replyElric
If I learned anything from the book you recommended it's that France was so embroiled in its own class war that they couldn't remotely form a united front against Germany
what choice would I havethe choice people made in 1917, to oppose the war and create socialist revolution.
this actually happened, we don't have to talk about it like its a hypothetical.
Feb 28, 2025Smacked VoodooThat's nice. She still be wylin out and saying dumb s***, antagonizing people unprovoked, and should've been banned months ago.
she revealed to me that im actually white today which is news to me
- Feb 28, 2025Silas
Russia may have scared them but the US needs to prevent them from having NATO membership no matter how Putin treats them for the sake of peace.
I know that sounds messed up to say but the United States and NATO can't protect or help everybody and they shouldn't continue to have a influence in the problems of every country.
They have to be selective in who they let in NATO and respect Putin's concerns.
because if the roles were reversed and we had Russia or China forces near our borders, the United States would go crazy too.
Again this just sounds like the same p**** footing that occurred in the late thirties but if you say so. Hope you're right.
Feb 28, 2025·1 replyElricIf I learned anything from the book you recommended it's that France was so embroiled in its own class war that they couldn't remotely form a united front against Germany
what choice would I havewhats the book
- Feb 28, 2025·2 repliesWRU
whats the book
1939 by Michael Carley (a Canadian white man, Snowboys favorite)
Feb 28, 2025·1 replykurapikaAnyway zelensky is right trump just has to give him a better deal this agreement is trash and just a way to extract more resources from ukraine with no security guarantees as they die slowly invasion prolly gonna restart as soon as trump is out
Nato admission only wayhe doesnt have to give him anything. if this guy doesnt get quiet soon his d*** supply will be cut off.
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replysnowboyrari
the choice people made in 1917, to oppose the war and create socialist revolution.
this actually happened, we don't have to talk about it like its a hypothetical.
That required the perfect storm of circumstances which were not the same in France then nor Ukraine now tho right?
Feb 28, 2025·2 repliesSilasIt looks like the main concern for Putin is the expansion of NATO and the EU towards Russia's borders.
If NATO and the Europe chills out on just letting everyone join NATO and spreading their influence, I don't think Putin will just start invading European countries.
As long as Putin is in charge, NATO and the EU should make it clear that ex Soviet states around Russia will not join NATO so Putin can calm down and sleep at night imo.
That's probably the best path to peace short term.
Why shouldn't independent countries have a right to decide there own future? Unless Russia is willing to give them security and sovereignty guarantees why would it make sense for these countries to not pursue NATO?
Feb 28, 2025·1 replycrolivia chowWhy shouldn't independent countries have a right to decide there own future? Unless Russia is willing to give them security and sovereignty guarantees why would it make sense for these countries to not pursue NATO?
NATO is not a place where your own future is decided
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replyElric
1939 by Michael Carley (a Canadian white man, Snowboys favorite)
I didn't tell you to read this you must have me confused with some other user
- Feb 28, 2025·3 replieseye contact
NATO is not a place where your own future is decided
I'm not commenting on that, I'm saying an independent country has a right to pursue that if they want. Same way the UK can leave the EU.
I just think its a dumb argument to be like "Well if ukraine never went to NATO this would be over"
- Feb 28, 2025
ITT people think the US and Russia are apples and oranges in terms of their extractive relations with satellite nations
They’re the same, the US just has an advantage for historical reasons (no WW2 on their land, no massive societal breakdown)
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replycrolivia chow
I'm not commenting on that, I'm saying an independent country has a right to pursue that if they want. Same way the UK can leave the EU.
I just think its a dumb argument to be like "Well if ukraine never went to NATO this would be over"
It would be better to say “a nations ruling class” than a nation
Helps divorce from ideological arguments that obscure real motivations
- Feb 28, 2025·1 replysnowboyrari
I didn't tell you to read this you must have me confused with some other user
I don't have time to dig up receipts rn but this is absolute cap