as baltic countries were running around trying to get their independence and access to western markets, one estonian delegation was in a meeting with Gorbachev or Yeltsin who told them all economic support from USSR/Russia will be severed as soon as independence will take place and i s*** you not one of the estonians got up and exclaimed 'what do you mean severed?!' i was trying to find the exact quote in the book i read about this but couldnt

soviet union is the largest welfare state probably in history

Czechoslovakia

Yall really f*** with that Imperial s*** from Russia

dubcek violated the terms of the warsaw pact and the consequences that people said would happen happened. dont really care that the government wasn't allowed to undermine the collective security agreement that was made.

Which terms did he violate? Why were Romania, Albania and China so against it?

I thought you already admitted Czechoslovakia was the one case where the people really didn't want or need to exist as a Soviet satellite

No point in arguing bro they really ride that Soviet d***, I am 100% sure they see whole East as Russian. WRU might even say some bs like Moldova is Russian land full of Russian people.

this makes no sense because theres no empire. inside russia there's widespread disapproval of annexing l/dnr because theyre posed to become a massive budget expense in the near term. they would require investment of resources before their extraction, and thats a literal lifelong process with the way things are going and where russia is at with its own economy. the only way for the government to sell this support to begin with is to produce all types of rhetoric around treatment of their russian-speaking population, for what its worth it is not at all in tune with your standard imperialist practice of looking for oil while singing about WMDs where there are none

you might say some bs like european union is great and amazing and drastically improved quality of life in my country that is doing much better than russia

I'm not arguing I'm asking

I don't want smoke with commissar snowboy

I don;t know bro I don't get beat up and thrown in a jail if I said f*** the president ,or get tracked by FSB if I say that on the internet

damn youre lucky im so jealous, just like people in germany might be because they get police raided for pro-palestinian support over there

Where did I said I support that my guy ?

your evropilled yapper up and down this section betrays the notion

you yapping too much about a state that opressed the eastern people too buddy

What your referring to is just diplomacy. The US has determined russia is more useful to their interests than ukraine

The question isnt whether the soviet union/russia is the best option in existence. The question for ukraine is whether they truly benefit from allying with the west. This war has proven that answer to be no

I would never say that and the warsaw pact nations were not "soviet satellites", this is a neo-nazi conspiracy theory. the "prague spring" was just an early attempt at the sort of color revolution that would occur throughout eastern europe in the late 80s, there's nothing remarkable about it otherwise except that it didn't succeed.

I like how this is just how every neo-nazi in europe thinks but because people on this forum are ignorant this sort of unhinged nazi bullshit is allowed. nobody sees the east as "russian". you see every communist though as "russian" because youre a racist scumbag.

Neo Nazi cus I don't support Russia or Soviet Terror in the east yeah never change karenflake never change

"soviet terror in the east"

damn you really need to die you holocaust denier scumbag

Where I denied the Holocaust you dumbass mf
Yet you will deny Holomodor tho

my jewish ancestors would have died in a concentration camp if it wasn't for "soviet terror", you should walk off a cliff you nazi s***stain

the red army ended the holocaust you absolute moron