ok let's break down the real agenda then.
Hypothesis 1:
-the west wants another state within their umbrella who will buy their goods, supply their labour, advance their ideals.
Ok, that's a self interested motive. But who cares, the ukrainians clearly are ok with this themselves. If the ukrainians want in why should the west freeze them out out of fear of russia, that's appeasement.
Hypothesis 2:
the west wants to harm russia in some way.
the west has done nothing to touch russia in any conceivable form despite having nearly 30 years to do so. clearly they dont want to f*** with russia if russia just minds its own business and doesnt f*** with ukraine
You realize that a yes to 1 also means a yes to 2, market shares are zero sum
Give me one example
Just weird you're acknowledging that there's reason to fear Russia after everything you just said
Just weird you're acknowledging that there's reason to fear Russia after everything you just said
Difference between eastern and western europe my guy
Eastern European countries fears for Russia is infinitely more justifiable than those of Western European countries. No historical precedent for that at all.
You don’t understand why Germany fears Russia?
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far right nationalists on twitter and turkish people agreeing to hate nordic countries (the far right nationalists on twitter are the black arm)
You don’t understand why Germany fears Russia?
because Germany has nazis in the government or because Russia is communist?
because Germany has nazis in the government or because Russia is communist?
Because last time Russia occupied Germany they committed unspeakable atrocities
Because last time Russia occupied Germany they committed unspeakable atrocities
Yeah when you perpetrate a genocidal race war against an entire ethnic group that happens
Yeah when you perpetrate a genocidal race war against an entire ethnic group that happens
The Russians would do that to anyone. You think they cared about avenging the Holocaust? Russians hate Jews as much as anyone
The Russians would do that to anyone. You think they cared about avenging the Holocaust? Russians hate Jews as much as anyone
as much as anyone?
something u wanna get off your chest buddy?
Because last time Russia occupied Germany they committed unspeakable atrocities
do tell
The Russians would do that to anyone. You think they cared about avenging the Holocaust? Russians hate Jews as much as anyone
As much as nazis ?
The Russians would do that to anyone. You think they cared about avenging the Holocaust? Russians hate Jews as much as anyone
Also I’m talking about the race war against Slavic people
As much as nazis ?
if its gonna end with one of those 'Stalin = Hitler' pirouettes im never replying in this thread ever again
As much as nazis ?
The idea that the Red Army in 1945 gave a single f*** about avenging Jews is absurd
The idea that the Red Army in 1945 gave a single f*** about avenging Jews is absurd
Given the official Soviet stance of being against anti semitism and them being fully aware of the death camps, I’d disagree
You always have to nitpick. Such a bad faith arguer
You said anyone. Did Soviet Russia industrialize a genocide and make it a cornerstone of their policy?
“You are a bad faith arguer” while calling the Soviets just as antisemitic as the nazis is crazy
“You are a bad faith arguer” while calling the Soviets just as antisemitic as the nazis is crazy
Not the “Soviets.” The Russians.