I didn't say it was good or defensible, just that that is official Russian military doctrine

That's not a defense that's calling a kettle a kettle

first he wrote just "ukrainians", but later changed it to "ukranian nazis" to be more dramatic, but came disrespectful as f*** to everyone who is fighting for their own home

who these nazis oppress btw?

We defending Nazis now

Saying a power that you actively support is “Using [disinformation] tools better than them” is absolutely defensive of misinformation and entirely hypocritical to everything you’ve stood for itt

Especially when the US is publishing misinformation for its OWN population to manufacture consent

me: editing the title of the podcast to call all ukrainians who fight for their own land nazis is disrepectful

you: stop defendind nazis

you really that stupid, americana?

Where did he call all Ukrainians Nazis, without making the assumption that “nazi Ukrainians” means all Ukrainians

the initial topic was this:

and then he came as this:

I have no clue how this is meant to paint all Ukrainians as nazi.

you have no clue on many topics we discussin here

You’re trying to argue semantics over an extremely correct viewpoint regarding how little the US cares about its own people so that it can fund foreign wars

this is really braindead rhetoric. the only option by his logic for zelensky not to be a US puppet is just give up and let russia annex ukraine. yes, very brave

is this really revolutionary and justice seeker? just say you scared of WW3 as everyone

Or he believes they are better utilizing the misinformation tactic to achieve their goals

Why are yall even discussing this random losers podcast

OP explicitly supported NATO multiple times on the basis of it being representative of more truthful, more democratic, more sovereign, etc. ideas itt. There is no room for assumption

Saying that the US/NATO is fighting a better disinformation war against its own people than the Russians is simply hypocritical and detractive to any sort of credibility they are attempting to hold, considering the ramifications of such a stance

I don’t care for the podcast. I care for the very real statement that the US is spending more on Ukraine’s economy than its own subjugated black population

Eh disagree, @TragedyGhaddafi may disagree with the tactics ethically but believe them justified as a means to an end

So the means justify the ends now for y’all? Weren’t you folks regularly s***ting on people like myself for saying that no support for this war would be better in that it ends with fewer dead innocents?

They're not really related issues though, if it wasnt Ukraine the money would be wasted somewhere else, it's not like theirs X available to spend and the reparations budget is being squeezed to spend on ukraine it just never existed

Depends on the means and the ends

The President just vetoed a COVID funding bill to push a $33bn legislature to inject into Ukraine fam

This is entirely relevant

Yes so lying to your populace about the nature of a war so that the war may continue without end is a beautiful means and ends to justify right

A much better one than wanting fewer people to die in an unnecessary conflict in exchange for some unfavorable political conditions

I don't support it but literally every country that is engaged in war this century will do that

Propaganda is not inherently the same thing as misinformation

The quote in the article literally says they weren’t verifying information that they were putting out