Imagine being mad at Zelensky asking for help instead of being mad at Russia threatening nukes.
You can only be against one thing at a time
two things can be and are true
"mad" isnt the word
Both things can be true but only one seems to get all the energy
Saying you want grown men to talk to each other to get closer to peace isn't a bad thing....
Imagine being mad at Zelensky asking for help instead of being mad at Russia threatening nukes.
Both is f***ed. But when Putin says "if NATO joins, it's nuke o clock", wtf we sposed to think when Z says "could NATO shoot down Russian planes"?
Saying you want grown men to talk to each other to get closer to peace isn't a bad thing....
men getting close to eachother
Both is f***ed. But when Putin says "if NATO joins, it's nuke o clock", wtf we sposed to think when Z says "could NATO shoot down Russian planes"?
LIKE HELLO O ?????
Inb4 but u only talk abt one
Yes bc when ppl say Putin bad we all agree
When somebody dares to criticize Zelensky yall throw a tantrum
you cannot say with 100% certainty that any conflict between nuclear powers will always and without fail end in nuclear war.
Yeah I can't look into the future jeen-yuhs but the chances are high enough and the consequences are devastating enough (extinction) that it should be avoided at all cost.
it should be avoided.
at what cost though, that's important to ask.
because, again, it's not a certainty. It's not like by doing something we are signing up for nuclear war. It increases the risk, yeah. and that's bad. But how bad is increasing that risk?
is the risk of nuclear war going up 1% worth infinite human lives? obviously no. if there was a choice between killing 1 billion people and letting the risk of nuclear war go up by 5%, I'd take the increased risk of nuclear war. I think you would to. Yes that's a hypothetical blown way out of proportion, but it isn't meant to be realistic, it's meant to show that there may be sone costs that are not worth it when it comes to keeping the risk of nuclear conflict low.
maybe in more realistic circumstances, we have to chose between letting millions die or increasing that risk by 10-20%.
the point is that a stance of putting minimized risk of nuclear conflict above absolutely everything else is a poor stance to take.
For the record, I dont think military intervention in Ukraine makes any sense and I'm not advocating for it.
ZELENSKY APPLYING TO EVERY ALLIANCE
MANS APPLYING TO MCDONALDS
ZELENSKY WOULD APPLY TO BE AN AMERICAN STATE IF HE COULD
it should be avoided.
at what cost though, that's important to ask.
because, again, it's not a certainty. It's not like by doing something we are signing up for nuclear war. It increases the risk, yeah. and that's bad. But how bad is increasing that risk?
is the risk of nuclear war going up 1% worth infinite human lives? obviously no. if there was a choice between killing 1 billion people and letting the risk of nuclear war go up by 5%, I'd take the increased risk of nuclear war. I think you would to. Yes that's a hypothetical blown way out of proportion, but it isn't meant to be realistic, it's meant to show that there may be sone costs that are not worth it when it comes to keeping the risk of nuclear conflict low.
maybe in more realistic circumstances, we have to chose between letting millions die or increasing that risk by 10-20%.
the point is that a stance of putting minimized risk of nuclear conflict above absolutely everything else is a poor stance to take.
For the record, I dont think military intervention in Ukraine makes any sense and I'm not advocating for it.
at what cost though, that's important to ask.
Definitely at the cost of Ukrainian NATO membership lol
"Putin's war was premeditated and unprovoked. He rejected efforts at diplomacy. He thought the West and NATO wouldn't respond. And, he thought he could divide us here at home," Biden will say, according to the excerpts. "Putin was wrong. We were ready."
Some part of what he will say at the SOTU
Mfs defending Zelensky trying to directly pull NATO into this lmfao i've seen it all lmao
it wasnt defending, it was just pointing out how y'all Choose when to freak out and be critical despite both sides doin this s***
ironically, i feel like y'all been makin these claims about how people view the West's atrocities a lot recently instead of actually discussing the present conflicts. and in situations like this when the present conflicts are actually discussed, y'all turn a blind eye just like what has been harped on for 100s of pages itt
at what cost though, that's important to ask.
Definitely at the cost of Ukrainian NATO membership lol
I'm not getting a whoopin. If mom said you can't spend the night, you can't spend the night my nigga.
"Putin's war was premeditated and unprovoked. He rejected efforts at diplomacy. He thought the West and NATO wouldn't respond. And, he thought he could divide us here at home," Biden will say, according to the excerpts. "Putin was wrong. We were ready."
Some part of what he will say at the SOTU
TLDR: gonna be pretty similar to last week's speech
it wasnt defending, it was just pointing out how y'all Choose when to freak out and be critical despite both sides doin this s***
ironically, i feel like y'all been makin these claims about how people view the West's atrocities a lot recently instead of actually discussing the present conflicts. and in situations like this when the present conflicts are actually discussed, y'all turn a blind eye just like what has been harped on for 100s of pages itt
"freak out"
We have said in every way how Putin is out of pocket and a war criminal
ZELENSKY APPLYING TO EVERY ALLIANCE
MANS APPLYING TO MCDONALDS
ZELENSKY WOULD APPLY TO BE AN AMERICAN STATE IF HE COULD
Lets trade alabama or kentucky for them… ukrainian women are 🔥.
Both is f***ed. But when Putin says "if NATO joins, it's nuke o clock", wtf we sposed to think when Z says "could NATO shoot down Russian planes"?
we r supposed to say "no we cant shoot down russian planes"
and we r supposed to recognize that this is a guy desperately asking for any form of help he can think of. he's being irrational. Can u rlly blame him for that given his circumstances?
Lets trade alabama or kentucky for them… ukrainian women are 🔥.
They can have Texas but we want the Texas women
we r supposed to say "no we cant shoot down russian planes"
and we r supposed to recognize that this is a guy desperately asking for any form of help he can think of. he's being irrational. Can u rlly blame him for that given his circumstances?
looks at videos of African children abandoned in Ukraine
we r supposed to say "no we cant shoot down russian planes"
and we r supposed to recognize that this is a guy desperately asking for any form of help he can think of. he's being irrational. Can u rlly blame him for that given his circumstances?
Actions have consequences
at what cost though, that's important to ask.
Definitely at the cost of Ukrainian NATO membership lol
guess what?
i agree.
if you thought this was a gotcha u are missing my point