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  • Jul 31, 2023
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    5.7 is such a bullshit number lol pure made up garbage

  • Jul 31, 2023

    Fair score

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Because their reviews blow and they're a culture vulture outlet

    https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5798-things-falling-apart/

    miserable review

    p4k houses and publishes some amazing music writers, and id say their reviews have only gotten better, especially when they stopped doing these essay-type reviews like the one you linked. it is not as ironic and non-serious as it was before. its hard to argue on the merits of each individual review because unlike one-person operations this is a publication and it houses multiple writers, contributors, all with different opinions and ways to discern an album. so even if I post a few good examples somebody might inevitably post another review and dissect it on its individual merits

    plus, their Sunday reviews for classic albums are also amazing and put me on a TON of s***, and I consider myself fairly well-versed in older music

  • Jul 31, 2023

    Yeah that’s about right

    Only like 3 good songs

  • Jul 31, 2023

    HipHopDX is a way better outlet than Pitchfork

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    if you asked me to pick pitchfork or another aggregator like rym in terms of quality review id pick pitchfork in 100 out of 100 cases. theres not one other publication that is doing the same thing and still gets people going about whether they got it right or not

    you can wonder how pitchfork is irrelevant in every single thread made about a pitchfork review but we all know that truly irrelevant ones are those that we don't even think of when it comes to criticism

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    WRU

    p4k houses and publishes some amazing music writers, and id say their reviews have only gotten better, especially when they stopped doing these essay-type reviews like the one you linked. it is not as ironic and non-serious as it was before. its hard to argue on the merits of each individual review because unlike one-person operations this is a publication and it houses multiple writers, contributors, all with different opinions and ways to discern an album. so even if I post a few good examples somebody might inevitably post another review and dissect it on its individual merits

    plus, their Sunday reviews for classic albums are also amazing and put me on a TON of s***, and I consider myself fairly well-versed in older music

    bro their positive scores of established classics suck too

    pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    WRU

    if you asked me to pick pitchfork or another aggregator like rym in terms of quality review id pick pitchfork in 100 out of 100 cases. theres not one other publication that is doing the same thing and still gets people going about whether they got it right or not

    you can wonder how pitchfork is irrelevant in every single thread made about a pitchfork review but we all know that truly irrelevant ones are those that we don't even think of when it comes to criticism

    RYM clearing P4K any day of the week

    Tens of thousands of aggregated opinions forming a general consensus>Three hipsters trying to get clicks

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    bro their positive scores of established classics suck too

    https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a/

    That was a review from 2000 in the essay era the guy mentioned, P4k has gotten less annoying but more boring over time IMO, but occasionally they hit the nail on the head and this Travis review is one of those times for me

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    bro their positive scores of established classics suck too

    https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a/

    you're posting literal 20+ year old reviews from a time of which most people actually have extreme positive nostalgia for p4k being edgy and an actual 'tastemaker' publication lol, what relevance is that to p4k of 2023

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Fries

    That was a review from 2000 in the essay era the guy mentioned, P4k has gotten less annoying but more boring over time IMO, but occasionally they hit the nail on the head and this Travis review is one of those times for me

    pretty much.

    dude is posting funny reviews from the actually spiky, edgy era of p4k as opposed to the mostly boring poptimism conde nast version lol

  • Jul 31, 2023
    class wario

    pretty much.

    dude is posting funny reviews from the actually spiky, edgy era of p4k as opposed to the mostly boring poptimism conde nast version lol

    There isn't anything funny about that review lol

    It's pretentious and stupid

  • Jul 31, 2023
    class wario

    you're posting literal 20+ year old reviews from a time of which most people actually have extreme positive nostalgia for p4k being edgy and an actual 'tastemaker' publication lol, what relevance is that to p4k of 2023

    pitchfork.com/thepitch/on-loving-taylor-swift-while-being-brown

    pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/death-grips-year-of-the-snitch

    these suck too

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    RYM clearing P4K any day of the week

    Tens of thousands of aggregated opinions forming a general consensus>Three hipsters trying to get clicks

    RYM is by design the most pretentious place on earth and probably the absolute worst and most racist review site when it comes to rap music opinions. an influx of post-tpab rap fans did irreversible damage to its album ranking, scoring, and review format. again by design it provides noting substantive as 99% of reviews can be boiled down to 'I liked it' or 'somebody might like it'. its has its place but its subpar music a***ysis. not to mention the quality of writing which is also abysmal being that, understandably, not everybody is a writer, but anybody can leave a comment there

    these kid a type of reviews are under every single zoomer classic album of the month on RYM and they are impossible to read just the same

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    WRU

    RYM is by design the most pretentious place on earth and probably the absolute worst and most racist review site when it comes to rap music opinions. an influx of post-tpab rap fans did irreversible damage to its album ranking, scoring, and review format. again by design it provides noting substantive as 99% of reviews can be boiled down to 'I liked it' or 'somebody might like it'. its has its place but its subpar music a***ysis. not to mention the quality of writing which is also abysmal being that, understandably, not everybody is a writer, but anybody can leave a comment there

    these kid a type of reviews are under every single zoomer classic album of the month on RYM and they are impossible to read just the same

    just a blind, overlong hate screed against popular consensus

  • Jul 31, 2023

    I ain’t gonna lie I like the album quite a bit less than first listen)

    But this “In an attempt to give the world a true blockbuster rap album, the Houston rapper delivers a shiny, empty spectacle loaded with pop superstars
    who rarely make an impact.”

    Is low-key accurate

  • Jul 31, 2023

    While I’m sippin dat kombucha either pink or brown (it’s lit)

  • Jul 31, 2023

    KTT falls for the P4K trap every time

  • Jul 31, 2023

    I think the album is missing some of the catchy melodies that made Astroworld good, there's few but not as many

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    Skinn Foley

    just a blind, overlong hate screed against popular consensus

    a bunch of nerds that actually got time to waste to rank and catalog something as pointless as the albums that they listen to, most of them of a certain age and a certain demographic (me being one of them) is not a popular consensus. it is opinions of internet music fans, a niche category of listeners that have no bearing on the actual consensus of most music consumers

    they circlejerk albums as they seem fit, have preset expectations and notions of what they 'appreciate' in music, and it all stems from circles where it was cool to have an opinion on music, which by default makes it pretentious. I gotta say there are more than a few instances where its less overbearing within RYM itself; once again most older music is not being brigaded and left for the enjoyment of a few who actually found their way to the website outside of content era. nevertheless, these people are not an entity, unlike a very specific group of fans operating within a specific group of genres

  • the average rym user only appreciate a rap album if there is something "innovative" in it

  • Jul 31, 2023

    F*** Alphonse lmao

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    a bunch of nerds that actually got time to waste to rank and catalog something as pointless as the albums that they listen to, most of them of a certain age and a certain demographic (me being one of them) is not a popular consensus. it is opinions of internet music fans, a niche category of listeners that have no bearing on the actual consensus of most music consumers

    they circlejerk albums as they seem fit, have preset expectations and notions of what they 'appreciate' in music, and it all stems from circles where it was cool to have an opinion on music, which by default makes it pretentious. I gotta say there are more than a few instances where its less overbearing within RYM itself; once again most older music is not being brigaded and left for the enjoyment of a few who actually found their way to the website outside of content era. nevertheless, these people are not an entity, unlike a very specific group of fans operating within a specific group of genres

    interesting point re: older albums, actually, and I completely agree.

    RYM was ruined by all the Fantano fans going on there and turning it into a weird popularity contest by proxy instead of just cataloging their listening habits, discussing and reviewing albums etc

  • Jul 31, 2023
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    Dragonpiece

    Why do yall always feel the need to go after the writers of these reviews when they give it a score you don't like? The album is still going to be best selling rap album of the year and no one is forcing you to change your own opinion of it.

    2nd best selling rap album of the year. But your point stands lol

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