Socialism 100% in a perfect world

Socdem s*** at the very least

oxymoronic that you have Pac as your avi. Read a book and learn about Socialist and Communist countries, please stop falling for western propaganda

i've agreed with you in this thread with the exception of this part

we should definitely strive to reduce inequality (and we make an effort, given the global fall in extreme poverty). modern day western economies aren't zero-sum games.

that said, while there's definitely reform that should be done in these economies for example, the "revolution" that you see socialists dream of would be both unnecessary and a disaster lol

Scandinavia

Capitalism is literally destroying our world so

Here’s the thing.

I like socialism.

I want socialism.

I wouldn’t mind living in a socialist society.

But

I’m also in favor of democracy, and I believe most people don’t want socialism.

So no socialism :(

Oh nvm lol, thought you were nigerian. But if it applies it applies I guess

Social democracy at least
I am still unsure how 100% socialism would pan out or function
I think treating every human being like they are valuable and deserve the rights to housing, education and career opportunities at the best the government can provide is something I'm 1000% percent behind.

We still brothers

scandinavian countries aren't socialist

they follow the nordic model which is a subset of capitalism that features free-market fundamentals complimented by a robust welfare state.

Eh lotta of brutal s*** goes on in nature. I prefer living in a world where children don't die of allergies, and where tribe violence (racism) is frowned upon. Most of our improvement of quality of life has come from us pointing a middle finger at nature with technology. I don't see a point in keeping a that lacks any utilitarian benefit, since most are designed to only prop up a select group of people.

Oh 100%

Equality of opportunity should be sort after indefinitely

It’s equality of outcome (which is a hallmark of socialism) that should be avoided

Everyone should have equal opportunities to succeed in life

Scandinavia is pretty good

Germany is also really good i love some of the ideas especially this one
weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/germany-universal-basic-income-trial-citizens

plus germany is similar to America as it Manufacturing based economy with a huge population

forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/#12c72f3a6b78

UBI has it's ups and downs. may be possible in the U.S. but we'd have to completely restructure our tax system, which is such a monumental task that i don't see our government being competent enough to accomplish (especially the current iteration)

what we should copy from germany though is their healthcare system. and i mean like shamelessly copy it. it's one of the most compatible systems with our country and it's pretty much USA but fixed.

i am Australian so i have medicare and its great tho the we have had conservative government for nearly 10 years now and they been chipping away

i wish just get rid off private insurance

its unethical

there are actually a number of issues with banning private insurance outright

if we were to do so, people would either have to pay out of pocket or they would have to rely on the government for care. this easily politicizes health care. imagine if this were the case and an extremist far-right government was in charge. women's rights would be gone in an instant.

that said, even on a functional level there's issues i'd categorize as unethical with single payer systems like how they use wait times to discourage interventions and curb demand. i dated a girl from canada about 2 years ago and her sister had to come to the states for a surgery. come to find out, she waited so long the bones fused and they had to break her shoulder again before they could start.

with that being said, the countries with the best health care systems use multi-payer health care and are also universal.

Do you consider capitalism to be working right now... or?

Can we have something thats a decent median between the two?

To be real

Democapitalocialism is the future

theres no way its that simple. There are different kinds of each.

I think the question is more about small or large government right?