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  • Dec 2, 2021
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    Elric

    Because the girls were programmed and brainwashed with d**** by a charismatic cult leader I see them as victims. Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate because I think QT is gross.

    You definitely are lol. Because you said “poor girls” and not even showing sympathy to the Rex guy who was prolly “brainwashed” too. So yea I don’t think those scenes were for QT to get off on beating a women to s***

  • Dec 2, 2021
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    Elric

    Ok yikes but still the finale of Hollywood was some garbage. Even if this is what happened in real life the audience absolutely howling and cheering at Brad Pitt liquefying this chick's face and Leo charring the other one just didn't sit right with me. Same thing with Django when he kicks Jamie's metal face thing and says "cock a doodle doo, ni**er" gales of laughter Quentin really knows how to hit those notes

    Lmao my theater was cheering too including me. Bro those scenes were hard, you prolly the only person I know who hates it lol. Even ppl who disliked the movie (found it boring) loved the ending

  • Dec 3, 2021
    Elric

    Well I'd rather talk to you about music but you've ignored the last handful of times I've tried showing you something even after you specifically ask questions about Costello and U2 and stuff and I answer but you don't respond. You love chiming in on these discussions though even though you know we always have to just agree to disagree

    I’m confused by the Hateful 8 love too fam, especially based off the examples you gave of why you hate Hollywood. IMO Jennifer character got more wrongful beatings VS the chicks in Hollywood.

    I could understand you saying the Hollywood critiques about Hateful 8 instead, being the her character does stem from a real life evil person

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Oscar Winner

    You definitely are lol. Because you said “poor girls” and not even showing sympathy to the Rex guy who was prolly “brainwashed” too. So yea I don’t think those scenes were for QT to get off on beating a women to s***

    Yeah this another thing, how was the girls brainwashed but not Tex or the slow guy that Brad beat up at the ranch?

    Just the girls are victims? 🧐🧐

  • Elric

    Pretty sure the man did all the stabbing in real life. It's funny because all these films full of violence toward women and Quentin really set himself up for his magnum opus with the Sharon Tate murder... but he tastefully decided defy those expectations in favour of.... having an overpowered woman killer mutilate them? Idk it just seemed like such a f***ed choice but I'm no Sigmund Freud... I just share a birthday with him

    Pretty sure atkins stabbed Tate a bunch of times and wrote pig with her blood too. Watching Brad Pitt slaughter the f*** out of them in movie was amazing

  • Dec 3, 2021
    Oscar Winner

    Lmao my theater was cheering too including me. Bro those scenes were hard, you prolly the only person I know who hates it lol. Even ppl who disliked the movie (found it boring) loved the ending

    I liked the rest of the movie a hell of a lot more and didn't mind the meandering pace or anything. He went full reetard at the end.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Fella

    Dude you must be getting the best old school feminist p**** to be uncomfortable on behalf of a micro minority of women who give a s*** about that. My mother and grandmother both thought that scene was hilarious.

    Man I really hate when you imply I'm thinking thoughts for any reason other than they f***ing just came to me when are you going to get that I'm not on Twitter and don't have an agenda and don't talk to feminists and even my girlfriend doesn't give a f***in s*** about this stuff. It's just us here and we can discuss it without you being an absolute homunculus about it.

    Like I said my mentor for film was even way older than the boomers and he wrote very passionately about guys like Kenji Mizoguchi, Fassbinder, Cukor, Libitsch, Ozu etc and their feminist films and things like that so that probably did have an effect on my cinema growth. I've never heard any other writer come up with a remotely convincing essay on why your "mean and dirty" type of films are worth a s***.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Yeah this another thing, how was the girls brainwashed but not Tex or the slow guy that Brad beat up at the ranch?

    Just the girls are victims? 🧐🧐

    Because tex has a big swinging d*** could've tossed little Charlie in front of a bus if he wanted

    My thoughts on this are definitely just a result of accumulative effect of watching QT be gross my whole life. Like I said Polanski and Hitchcock and a lot of other guys I consider goat have made equally heinous moves so it's not like I'm going to stop watching his movies or hold it against him forever.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Man I really hate when you imply I'm thinking thoughts for any reason other than they f***ing just came to me when are you going to get that I'm not on Twitter and don't have an agenda and don't talk to feminists and even my girlfriend doesn't give a f***in s*** about this stuff. It's just us here and we can discuss it without you being an absolute homunculus about it.

    Like I said my mentor for film was even way older than the boomers and he wrote very passionately about guys like Kenji Mizoguchi, Fassbinder, Cukor, Libitsch, Ozu etc and their feminist films and things like that so that probably did have an effect on my cinema growth. I've never heard any other writer come up with a remotely convincing essay on why your "mean and dirty" type of films are worth a s***.

    Forgive for me for finding your approach to evaluating cinema to be totally alien.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Because tex has a big swinging d*** could've tossed little Charlie in front of a bus if he wanted

    My thoughts on this are definitely just a result of accumulative effect of watching QT be gross my whole life. Like I said Polanski and Hitchcock and a lot of other guys I consider goat have made equally heinous moves so it's not like I'm going to stop watching his movies or hold it against him forever.

    None of QT exaggerated violence ever felt gross to me personally just heightened the cinema experience for me personally

  • sace 👍
    Dec 3, 2021

    can't handle hong kong's heroic bloodshed films? hmm

  • Dec 3, 2021
    interstellarflyin2

    None of QT exaggerated violence ever felt gross to me personally just heightened the cinema experience for me personally

    That's because you didn't know Quentin was literally the one doing it behind the camera

  • Dec 3, 2021
    Fella

    Forgive for me for finding your approach to evaluating cinema to be totally alien.

    I know because you are the guy that famously defined himself by name dropping a bunch of philosophers that you don't understand what it means to form your own opinions

  • Elric

    Because tex has a big swinging d*** could've tossed little Charlie in front of a bus if he wanted

    My thoughts on this are definitely just a result of accumulative effect of watching QT be gross my whole life. Like I said Polanski and Hitchcock and a lot of other guys I consider goat have made equally heinous moves so it's not like I'm going to stop watching his movies or hold it against him forever.

    I feel you. I think QT can be a bit much too, I just think that scene wasnt the line for me.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Man I really hate when you imply I'm thinking thoughts for any reason other than they f***ing just came to me when are you going to get that I'm not on Twitter and don't have an agenda and don't talk to feminists and even my girlfriend doesn't give a f***in s*** about this stuff. It's just us here and we can discuss it without you being an absolute homunculus about it.

    Like I said my mentor for film was even way older than the boomers and he wrote very passionately about guys like Kenji Mizoguchi, Fassbinder, Cukor, Libitsch, Ozu etc and their feminist films and things like that so that probably did have an effect on my cinema growth. I've never heard any other writer come up with a remotely convincing essay on why your "mean and dirty" type of films are worth a s***.

    "he wrote very passionately about guys like Kenji Mizoguchi, Fassbinder, Cukor, Libitsch, Ozu etc and their feminist films and things like that"

    can you namedrop some of these movies, need some for research 👀

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    "he wrote very passionately about guys like Kenji Mizoguchi, Fassbinder, Cukor, Libitsch, Ozu etc and their feminist films and things like that"

    can you namedrop some of these movies, need some for research 👀

    Ugetsu and Late Spring Petra von Kant and Holiday and Letter From An Unknown Woman ain't no "dirty and mean" . F*** that loser energy I'd rather be called a white knight any day.

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Ugetsu and Late Spring Petra von Kant and Holiday and Letter From An Unknown Woman ain't no "dirty and mean" . F*** that loser energy I'd rather be called a white knight any day.

    “loser energy”. You know what, f*** you Elric.

  • Dec 3, 2021
    Fella

    “loser energy”. You know what, f*** you Elric.

    I was joking with that one

    Real question though what do you think Hayao Miyazaki would say after watching one of your dirty and mean movies? We both know he would be absolutely appalled and I have a feeling you wouldn't right his opinion off like you do for me because you would understand he has a different worldview than you

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Thread lowkey derailed

  • Dec 3, 2021
    beflygelt

    Thread lowkey derailed

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Because the girls were programmed and brainwashed with d**** by a charismatic cult leader I see them as victims. Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate because I think QT is gross.

    film is actually morally grey. Cliff is an a******. It's imo very important to read it against reality.

  • Dec 3, 2021

    I love Bergmans woman centered films.. but I also love giallos

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Aruji

    film is actually morally grey. Cliff is an a******. It's imo very important to read it against reality.

    What does that mean exactly wise 1

  • Dec 3, 2021
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    Elric

    Ok yikes but still the finale of Hollywood was some garbage. Even if this is what happened in real life the audience absolutely howling and cheering at Brad Pitt liquefying this chick's face and Leo charring the other one just didn't sit right with me. Same thing with Django when he kicks Jamie's metal face thing and says "cock a doodle doo, ni**er" gales of laughter Quentin really knows how to hit those notes

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