If you can’t see the irony of Ken being nominated over Barbie in the “blockbuster movie for women, the BARBIE movie”, I feel like you’re being obtuse
They are different categories....
I gave you the direct example of how Jamie Lee Curtis winnning over Stephanie Hsu was a great travesty. Both from same movie SAME CATEGORY
But she won you want to know why cause she is A WHITE WOMAN
She won over Angela Bassett.
i gave this example HOURS AGO.
Same category is MORE RELEVANT THAN DIFFERENT CATEGORY
When the soul of the movie that gripped us was STEPHANIE HSU
what is UNCLEAR
We show you the direct percentage of white people deciding the nominations and you want me to feel sorry for aa white woman. You want me to say race plays no factor at all in the reaction or the sense of entitlement to be nominated for an Oscar. Be FR with yourself brother
The logic of "the movie is about feminism and a man from the movie is being recognized but the woman category is stacked with tough competition because women actresses really did great last year " isnt the malicious snub you think it is. If Ryan Gosling wants to forfeit his nomination and give it to another man I am all for it stand on business
No nominations for The Killer?
We won
They are different categories....
I gave you the direct example of how Jamie Lee Curtis winnning over Stephanie Hsu was a great travesty. Both from same movie SAME CATEGORY
But she won you want to know why cause she is A WHITE WOMAN
She won over Angela Bassett.
i gave this example HOURS AGO.
Same category is MORE RELEVANT THAN DIFFERENT CATEGORY
When the soul of the movie that gripped us was STEPHANIE HSU
what is UNCLEAR
We show you the direct percentage of white people deciding the nominations and you want me to feel sorry for aa white woman. You want me to say race plays no factor at all in the reaction or the sense of entitlement to be nominated for an Oscar. Be FR with yourself brother
Flame me, but I don’t actually agree with you. Everything is not just attributed to whiteness. There is nuance. Jamie Lee Curtis is also a movie star. I just don’t like this guessing game of chopping and dividing everything up by race and biases. Is there unconscious bias toward white people? I think so. But is there not also a push to have more inclusive stories? Aren’t the representation of some minority groups higher than what is represented in the population? I’m not sure of the breakdown, but you also have to remember, these voters are gonna do what is safe, and what has a narrative around it
No nominations for The Killer?
Killer I need to give another chance the internal monologue style felt Joe from You to me in a annoying way when I first tried
They are different categories....
I gave you the direct example of how Jamie Lee Curtis winnning over Stephanie Hsu was a great travesty. Both from same movie SAME CATEGORY
But she won you want to know why cause she is A WHITE WOMAN
She won over Angela Bassett.
i gave this example HOURS AGO.
Same category is MORE RELEVANT THAN DIFFERENT CATEGORY
When the soul of the movie that gripped us was STEPHANIE HSU
what is UNCLEAR
We show you the direct percentage of white people deciding the nominations and you want me to feel sorry for aa white woman. You want me to say race plays no factor at all in the reaction or the sense of entitlement to be nominated for an Oscar. Be FR with yourself brother
Jamie Lee Curtis being nominated in general was a travesty
Flame me, but I don’t actually agree with you. Everything is not just attributed to whiteness. There is nuance. Jamie Lee Curtis is also a movie star. I just don’t like this guessing game of chopping and dividing everything up by race and biases. Is there unconscious bias toward white people? I think so. But is there not also a push to have more inclusive stories? Aren’t the representation of some minority groups higher than what is represented in the population? I’m not sure of the breakdown, but you also have to remember, these voters are gonna do what is safe, and what has a narrative around it
If you think this is bad just wait until Emma Stone wins over Lily Gladstone
Flame me, but I don’t actually agree with you. Everything is not just attributed to whiteness. There is nuance. Jamie Lee Curtis is also a movie star. I just don’t like this guessing game of chopping and dividing everything up by race and biases. Is there unconscious bias toward white people? I think so. But is there not also a push to have more inclusive stories? Aren’t the representation of some minority groups higher than what is represented in the population? I’m not sure of the breakdown, but you also have to remember, these voters are gonna do what is safe, and what has a narrative around it
Its not about everything.
The soul of the movie for EEAAO was and is Stephanie Hsu performance that is my opinion. I am not dividing everything into race.
Race plays a part in the Oscars. Its undeniable. The wealth disparity of the people in power and judges plays a part in the oscars. Yes narratives and fans being in uproar also plays a part. But at the end of the day controversey helps them. Viral moments help them. Upsets where everyone argues about it one way or the other for months helps them garner ratings from people that have STOPPED PAYING FOR CABLE
LIKE WHY IS THIS SO UNCLEAR
so few are actually watching live on Cable so they have to construct moments and upsets and get people arguing who are too emotionally invested in s*** that doesnt affect their lives
But, also, I dunno tho, cause not giving it to Stephanie Hsu is so f***ing stupid tho like what that scene where she cries is f***ing so good
Jamie Lee Curtis being nominated in general was a travesty
Exactly my point......
But, also, I dunno tho, cause not giving it to Stephanie Hsu is so f***ing stupid tho like what that scene where she cries is f***ing so good
Its not stupid in that case it was objectively wrong.
I like Ryan well enough he seems like a nice fella but man this is all time lame.
The categories aren’t unlimited so somebody has to come out. In the Best Actress category the only person you have a case for is Annette Bening. I like Greta and Barbie but the Best Director category is 100% locked down, Zone of Interest? KOTFM? theres not a single f***in argument for Greta over any of them.
And all thats moot because not Ryan nor anyone involved is gonna name anyone that should get dropped, he/they are just gonna gesture towards this being an unfair. I like Barbie but if were being 100% honest nobody in that movie really deserves a nomination in any of the main categories, theyre getting thrown a few bones because they made a lot of money for the industry and people like them, let that be enough stop acting like babies.
I am not going into everything like "oh thats cause they are white" . Being white and rich paints a diffrent lens of how you appreciate some art and artist. Also being white and or rich means you only want to shake the table so much and have your own opinion. Its conditioning and its keeping YOUR people in power
Exactly my point......
Yes I am agreeing with you
Its not stupid in that case it was objectively wrong.
It is
But it also feels a bit like, they’re just gonna f*** whoever is the biggest star
They’re Star f***ers
Yes I am agreeing with you
I know but for those that don't grasp it. I appreciate you agreeing
If lily gladstone doesn’t win we riot
It is
But it also feels a bit like, they’re just gonna f*** whoever is the biggest star
They’re Star f***ers
Nah it was a "we owe Jamie Lee Curtis one before she retires type s***"
but it was way too blatant
Jamie Lee Curtis being nominated in general was a travesty
that was one of the craziest oscar wins ever like fr b**** wasn’t even the 2nd best actress in her own film
like there isn't enough transparency even if some of the judges could be friends or close with the nominees....