are we still KendrickToThe

Are we finally healing? Love OP because I know he ride for his coast but appreciate calling a spade a spade. There’s room for all these guys pause

overhated album simply because of comments like this lmao. album only has like 2 weak songs and this is one of them

Dam I typed a LONG reply to @blacksmoke but I think he deleted his post lol

S*** was f***ing trash fam

TEARS ALL OVER THE PILLOWCASE

Shot for me should have been the single

I asked what year take care became a classic since it’s not an instant classic. I ain’t want to upset some people even tho it’s a question that’s never been asked

This my first time hearing that song and the rapping isn’t bad. People was hating on that?

Cole fell off after FNL

They were hating on the beat and then the album isn’t relatable for internet rap fans. I think the album is great, a lot of depth in that project. A sound I only ever heard from him or Wale. I mean ask anyone to play the song Sideline Story right now and I bet it’ll be one of their favorite Cole songs

Just internet dorks hating, not that complex

Somewhere between 2018 and 2022

For sure it was well after Views. I remember listening to the Budden Podcast in 2016 and Joe ranting about how Drake had no classics. I remember that wasn’t considered a hot take at the time

Hard to pin exactly why things changed. Drakes public perception and fanbase starts changing around when Scorpion drops. Kendrick disappears. Cole drops music and its ass. There isn’t really a new blog era that mints new superstars. Drake lowkey carries the genre and enjoys unquestioned unrivaled dominance. Younger generations come along who think that like all of hip hop is Drake lol. Absolutely all music consumption fully goes over to streaming. Streaming changes how people consume music. Complaints about albums being too long or having too many skips kind of stops happening because everyone puts everything in playlists. Before then people would argue about take care and say things like “if you took the best 11 songs on it and cut the rest you might have a classic” (I remember making fake classic tracklists on ktt1 lmfao)

It’s a lot. But that’s the time frame where I remember the discourse shifting from “TC, NWTS & IYRTITL are great great albums” to them being considered classics. Up until the Kendrick beef people in general hated on and made fun of Drake MUCH less than they used to. The haters re-emerged post-beef lol. The main thing is the overall discourse about what’s considered a classic changed. You see it in replies to my posts itt.

No skips on Born Sinner either

Ain’t no way someone with an avy like that quoted me

21 people failed this rap iq test

FNL, 2014FHD and you can argue for Born Sinner or The Offseason depending on which Cole fan you got and which hiphop fan you talking to. Born Sinner is amazing, so is Offseason

this guy said offseason is a classic

intreresting point

would be a shame if I said "Corn Dinner" however

Bro

We need to draw a line in the sand

Things can only be considered classics if they perfectly encapsulate a moment in time and/or permanently change the genre going forward

You can make a case that Cole has not done either once. The offseason definitely is not that even though I think its a really dope album

Some of y'all can't just call something good or great and immediately jump to classic

There's only like 50 classics in all of hip hop history

Name one

I mean…that’s why I named 2 definites and depending on the type of discussion presented other options lmao

Jcole trying steal Drake fans

So your telling me Kendrick is in the conversation with Ye and Hov but drake isn't?

So take care became a classic many years later because the standards were lowered in the late 2010s and early 2020s?