"ballot harvesting"

Vote gold

we're a ways off from getting rid of voting altogether unfortunately

Ballot harvesting is a joke of a term designed to scaremonger. Any ballot tampering that has directly occurred via ballot collection is extremely rare and insignificant.

Time and time again investigations have found nothing, commissions have found nothing. Literally the only case that Republicans have to cite against it is their district in NC, the one which for years they turned a blind eye to and dismissed investigations on and actively encouraged others to hire the guy at the centre of it.

The idea that there is systemic fraud stemming from 'ballot harvesting' is a false narrative, being propagated by a scummy organisation with misleading and weak evidence. And the proposed policy to ban it is designed for nothing more than voter suppression, especially given that there are already numerous safeguards in place from state-to-state.

the reason it's not "systematic" is because it's already banned in half the country and in another handful heavily regulated, so no s***

also

"Literally the only case that Republicans have to cite against it is their district in NC"

like yes, that's the f***ing point i'm making, that they're clearly doing it themselves and then deflecting blame to democrats? are you even reading my posts?

So, if you acknowledge that it is heavily regulated where legal, why are you hailing a policy to ban it?

it is not regulated in every state, for example in california, i can find the video, devin nunes (R) literally said, and i quote, "we abuse ballot harvesting because it's the only way we can win". the bill to regulate ballot harvesting failed in california. if we are going to have any form of voting, if it's a federal thing, there is no reason not to have a national standardized process for it rather than per-state regulation

'Ballot harvesting' is a non-issue though. It only becomes an issue where it leads into ballot tampering, failing to deliver etc. Which is close to null.

Making voting easier is good. Especially when incident rates for voter fraud are inconspicuous.

And speaking of California, it is such a laughable narrative to perpetuate that relaxing the laws on ballot collection led to their losses in 2018. Their own report could cite no examples of fraud there. And yet that still is a great chunk of the supposed evidence cited by places like Project Veritas, the footing for bills like this one.

Something wrong with him

Lmfaoo tulsi did a pragerU vid

Nah. They just stole footage from her original video and repurposed it for their propaganda.

Maybe. But she is out here shouting out project veritas

the original relation comes from Tulsi having sued Google on her own volition, and PragerU - separately - cited her lawsuit in their own separate lawsuit against Google (which was for a different but in their eyes comparable reason). It was then reported - falsely - they had "joined forces", but it was a misinterpretation of what had actually occurred.

I saw the most recent PragerU video and it looks like they just ripped pre-existing footage from her twitter.

Source of original video, as proof:

If she goes and does an actual in person exclusive video for PragerU then I will admit she has gone over the deep-end

Tulsi been off the deep end. I appreciated her gaining traction for slamming Hillary and Russiagate or whatever but she’s clearly just some dimwitted gullible opportunist that has no real convictions besides staying relevant

dems really don't want to give us a second stimulus cus they're scared it'll help Trumps campaign?

corny losers

Can anybody explain this for me lmao

In the NYT article about Trump’s taxes, towards the bottom of the article it says Trump paid 5.2 million in 2016 and 2017 in taxes that he may owe. It looks like ultimately when filing only $750 was required each year and the rest of the money he paid rolled over to cover taxes for the coming years? So he actually paid millions but only had to pay $750?

I wanted to make a thread about the Azerbaijan - Armenia war (which the western media doesn’t care about apparently) but my account isn’t old enough yet
Does anyone care about this? Because I don’t want to make an elaborate thread with videos and updates if noone gives a f***
Please give feedback, thanks

The situation is really f***ed especially with Turkey's stupid ass ideological involvement against Armenia (personal opinion - sorry if this is offensive). The west doesn't given s*** and it's reflected in the media. It's a very worthwhile topic but I don't know how much meaningful discussion would be had on it, the general situation isn't very well known in the west to begin with besides "yeah that's a thing that's happening".

Turkey is involved because Azerbaijan are Turks too, and Armenia is occupying Azerbaijan land illegally (this is not an opinion, it’s actually true)
I’m sure that as soon as Armenia retreats from the occupied land Turkey will back down too
Turkey has it’s own reasons to back Azerbaijan (like having a corridor to the rest of the Turkic world) but even if the reasons are wrong it doesn’t mean that Azerbaijan is wrong

I understand the claims being made from both Armenia & Azerbaijan and that there really is not a singular answer which would please either side. However, Turkey's involvement in this is irresponsible and Erdogan's remarks are tangentially inflammatory and more focused on Armenia than the actual conflict as well imo; the country's actions do not exist in a vacuum and military action on their part implicates other parts of the world and further complicates the actual conflict itself. Turkey obviously does not even recognize Armenia as a country so it's not exactly surprising they'd want to widen any conflict to increase their ability to wage aggression there similar to what the US does with regional conflicts in Syria. While I'm not really biased against Azerbaijan or their own regional self-determination or history, it's hard me to simply disregard Armenia given its not like its a random piece of land but does have actual Armenian history as well. Of course i also understand the long history of violations of ceasefires so it's hard to really mediate this on a neutral level. One reason i think it's so uncompromising is because there's genuinely no neutral answer that would not severely anger the other side

Turkey DOES recognize Armenia as a country, just not the illegally occupied land. No matter what Turkey is doing what western countries won’t do simply because they don’t give a f*** about muslim countries. You need to understand that Turkey tries to be for the muslim world what the USA is for the christian world, a power that protects those who aren’t protected

I would disagree that the US is striving for a "christian world"; it's striving for a neoliberal capitalist world of which its prior establishment just so happens to be culturally christian; american evangelicals are just a prop for a capital-based machine far beyond them.
While I like 300% agree about the west and not caring about muslim countries except where convenient...i don't really know if it's fair to classify this as some dichotomy of religious/ethnic support. Israel supports Azerbaijan over Armenia and Armenia has cut diplomatic ties (or at least withdrew an ambassador) with them because of it. Iran supports Armenia over Azerbaijan despite them both being majority shia...and Turkey is mostly suuni. Kazakhstan is is mixed muslim and they want a neutral resolution - and i'm pretty sure they are ethnically turkic. Albania is mixed islamic and they want a neutral resolution. These are just a few examples.I don't really think you can make this out to be a solely religious conflict; especially since that's not really the history that started the regional conflict either really to begin with.

also, i will admit you are right about turkey & armenia, so sorry - I forgot about the soviet republic stuff prior to 1991. However I know there are no formal or biliteral relations, and they were never ratified.

I've been following it quite closely

Not surprised that the western media doesn't care, and I don't particularly expect them to, they have their own problems at the moment

Maybe could ask S about being able to make it, I would definitely appreciate it. I live pretty close to an Armenian part of town so have definitely heard of it, but agree it’s been hugely underrepresented in media