One day we will live in an era where I can get a good gpu at a decent price.

Anyone manage to get a 5070ti today?

the ungodly things id do to get a 2000 dollar 5090

it's honestly so sad

we went from Intel beating AMD into the ground for a decade just to totally collapse so hard

it seems like it's impossible for there to be any competition anymore there is just a market leader forever now in CPU/GPU.. pay them or kick rocks lol

we're never having the golden 1990-2011 era back (fuck I'm old)

Never in the high end.

AMD would rather sell their high-end wafers to data centers for EPYC chips powering AI, while the slightly worse silicon goes to Ryzen, which is much cheaper and always generates money.

AMD will focus on lower end high margin GPUs and CPUs with Graphics like what the consoles & Steam Deck uses.

High end PC gamers are fried though..

Nvidia drivers on Linux being bad is no longer true, ever since AI took off they've had to make a bunch of stuff open for Linux and improved a lot since most AI training happens on Linux. There are some slight desktop issues but nothing like it use to be.

You can find the founder of Linux saying as much lol.

I do agree though Value is likely to work on some kind of custom AMD chip for a home console. I think boxes like these might come more common especially if a midrange Nvidia desktop starts costing $3000+ which at this rate seems likely after the last five years of prices going up and 0 stock.

quote from Linus about Nvidia fixing their drivers if anyone finds it interesting

"One of the things that makes me enjoy open source so much is obviously just the community. Being involved and having lots of different people to communicate with, that's what really keeps me going. But the thing that makes it all practical is that people specialize in what they're interested in. So, when I say no, it's because it's just not my interest area. So, when it comes to things like Cloud, Kubernetes, or AI, to pick the hot topic of the day, I see myself as a kernel person who wants to support that, but I don't see myself as a person who is at all interested in the end result!

So, when AI people came in, that was wonderful, because it meant somebody at NVIDIA had got much more involved on the kernel side, and NVIDIA went from being on my list of companies who are not good to my list of people who are doing really good work. But that doesn't mean that I, personally, end up being interested in AI. I am just interested in what we need to do in the kernel to support AI. I still see myself as a core kernel person. But I think it's a good thing that people specialize. So, if people ask me about Linux using the cloud, I'm like, ‘I know Linux. But I don't know cloud.’"

Oh i'm saying specifically on a non-ai level. the incremental performance gains from the 4070 to 5070, 4090 to 5090 being s*** are just going to get worse as time goes on. then the door will open for AMD to actually offer real non-ai performance gains in GPU market

I get what you're saying—that Nvidia hasn't improved much, so AMD could catch up—but I don’t think they care at all. AMD isn't even trying to make a card better than the 4090 even though they easily could. By the time they do, TSMC will have a better node for Nvidia, leading to a major performance uplift.

The weaker generational leap this time wasn’t just because Nvidia focused more on AI than CUDA cores—it’s also because they’re holding back the best hardware for AI customers. This is the first new Nvidia generation with no node shrink! They know AMD isn’t seriously competing at the high end, so there’s no pressure. If AMD were keeping them in check, Nvidia would’ve pushed harder.

We'll see, but I just don't think AMD is putting out anything close to a 4090 anytime soon, even in pure raster performance—not talking about AI or Tensor workloads.

They make so much money in CPUs, and since everything comes from the same wafer supply at TSMC, making high-end gaming GPUs that don’t sell well is just setting money on fire. Instead, they can turn those wafers into AI chips, server CPUs, gaming CPUs, or desktop CPUs—all of which are far more profitable.

A big part of this is also that gamers overwhelmingly buy Nvidia no matter what. AMD handed everyone a 7900XT at a good price, and barely anyone bought it. Consumers just follow what their favorite streamer uses, and that puts AMD in a position where competing with the 5090 would be financial suicide.

This could all change if the AI boom slows or goes bust, but as of right now I just don't see AMD or Nvidia giving a f*** about gamers. I hope I'm wrong though and that AMD & Intel can at least get mid range 5070 tier cards back in check price wise cause s***s crazy out here. The high end seems perma fried though.

You have to understand that AMD’s CPUs and GPUs come from the same wafer supply, and every wafer used for a gaming GPU is one that could have been turned into an EPYC CPU for an AI supercomputer—something that sells for way more and has much higher demand. That’s the core issue. High-end gaming GPUs just don’t make financial sense when AMD can use the same silicon for AI chips, server CPUs, or even mainstream Ryzen CPUs, all of which generate far better margins.

ok, fair enough. both sides are way more incentivized to just cater towards corporate AI world now instead of normal consumers / gamers

yeah hopefully this doesn't last for too long.. would love a 5090 but I could see inflated prices for 6+ months

AMD Radeon threw in the towel till summer 2026 to focus on AI

Intel is trying but still seems to be in the midrange, which could be good for people that don't want a 4090 tier card but I'm not even sure Intel beats the 9070xt

AMDs best card till next summer will be the 9070xt which is 97% a 3070ti level at raster, 75% at RT/AI

the icue program for corsair coolers sucks ass

NVM 9070 XT WE ARE SO UP (affordable gamers)

hope there is plenty of restocks lol

if you live near microcenter is up tbh

Wrong thread sorry. But should i just get a macbook for all my music production and video editing needs?

I really like using windows and like being able to pirate most things i need very easily

Thinking either a mac or one of these samsung books but i dunno tbh I'm not that clued up on the pc/lappy game anymore

I built a desktop back in 2010. I wish I carried on my interest into this world

When it comes to video editing, macOS and Windows are quite similar, with no significant difference in performance.

For music production, macOS does offer some advantages, such as built-in audio channel routing and MIDI support. The way macOS handles audio is integrated into the operating system, resulting in lower latency. Most audio interfaces don’t require drivers, as macOS uses built-in system extensions. Additionally, Thunderbolt support allows for easy expansion with high-bandwidth audio hardware.

This is why Macs are commonly found in professional music studios—many of these features are built-in, whereas Windows requires additional software or drivers to achieve similar functionality, treating audio as just another background service.

That said, VST plugin availability (including piracy) tends to be better on Windows.

If you're not a professional producer and don’t have a specific need for Logic Pro or Final Cut Pro, Windows will work just fine.

Thank you so much. Ima just get a mac. I need that longevity/reliability

No problem, the M series Macbook's are great. Still using my 4 year old M1 Max 16" daily, best laptop I've ever owned and I've owned like 15 laptops lol.

classic lol

looking to build my first pc. Went to a microcenter and asked one of the workers to recommend me parts, he put this list together pcpartpicker.com/list/VCNpNz

How are these? He told me to wait for the 9070xt tho

I put the RX 7800xt in the list

i'd personally get the Samsung 990 EVO 2TB or something Samsung/Hynix/Crucial over a Microcenter branded NVME other than that it all looks good