a lot of very good answers

Forgot how hard Schroeder is

Midnite Xpress / IX

THEJIGISUP

Floor Seats

PTRFMLSBRDG (letuleave instrumental obv)

Embarrassment of Riches

Cessna 210 (I think Fahim produced it)

Brand Finale (Grapes of Math too)

Foreword and D’Shady & D’Lamp

Marshmallow Test

all the joints on here are absolutely euphoric, but 19:51 is really one of the best beats ive heard in my life

Nothing alike , Benny (StarBoy) and Mach are not patching that s*** up . Plus Jay Elect is a dud

WINCHESTER SKATES
JACOBS ladder 777
SOCIAL MEDIA
KAPEESH

Muhamed Ali in the swimming pool posture / Criminal Raja / Quit The cylindrical & finish you HASTLAS / LONE RYDER with the digital data !!

It’s actually “hazas”. Scarface reference; means “pig” in Yiddish.

My Dog , now that line hits different 🔥

New droog album out no hommy on there

“All songs produced by Your Old Droog
(YOD didn’t make the beats but he produced the songs)”

A little of that Mach Phonics

Hate this trend of theirs. Just nonsense, so disrespecful and arrogant

^ x100

Y’all listened to it? Any good?

I would have to assume the people making these beats for them understand where they’re coming from at this point and don’t take it as disrespect. And again, there’s making a beat, and then there’s doing all of the rest of the s*** to actually finish the album, and if the artist is the one rolling up their sleeves and taking all of the steps to get the album from their imagination to the audience, if every artistic decision being made is theirs alone (yes, they didn’t make the beat, but they did choose to rap over it and have it be a part of their body of work), I understand taking the producer credit.

That being said, “extensive co-production assistance from YOD + Edan” is a little nuts, haha. Don’t make it sound like you guys had to teach me how to use the SP-404 or whatever 💀

Did you listen to that interview where Mach talks about this exact thing like how beat making and producing are different. Seemed very pretentious to me.

Line gets me every time

Are Droog (and Mach) picking the sample? Are they putting in the loop markers? Are they chopping it up? Are they transposing it? Are they reversing the melody? Are they selecting drums and sequencing them? Are they adding effects - reverb, filter, etc? Are they providing the equipment to make the beat? Are they doing the mix and master even?

Absolutely not.

Roper's ig story right now doesn't say 'I made the beat but Droog produced it', it just says 'track produced by me'. Droog is not stood over his head from end-to-end of the beats creation saying do this, this and this. 90% of what he's calling production is simply logging in his email and going 'oooh new pack from Argov, I like this beat and this one, i dont like the rest'.

We all inherently understand the distinction between producer and rapper. This attempt to blur the lines is just rewriting the rules of the game out of ego and nothing more.

It is egotistical to go out of your way to make a distinction like this at all, absolutely. And I’m not talking about a lot of what you said; the sample and the equipment and such, all totally the choices of the person who made the beat. It’s when you get to the idea of Droog simply opening a beat pack and boom, all of his work is done, is where I disagree and start to see where they could want to take the credit for producing their album. We don’t know what the beat sounds like when the artist gets it vs. when it’s finished, so we don’t know how much of the reverb, filter, etc. was there before the artist started working on it. In the case of mixing and mastering, those credits are listed and none of the producers mixed or mastered any of the songs on Time, some dudes named Dan The Man and Joe Visciano mixed them all and a guy named Joe LaPorta mastered them. So I don’t think any of Mach’s songs have been mixed or mastered by the producers who made the beats. These people are all producers, but I get the idea that they did not necessarily produce these albums. An interviewer really just needs to ask some of the producers they’ve worked with how they interpret it. Again, I think they understand, since the same people keep popping up on new albums by these two.

Mach’s absolutely more egregious with it, but we’re also on Rami, haha. The super egotistical thing is part of the package

The lines have been blurred ever since beatmakers started getting called producers .. the terms are interchangeable now, but that doesnt mean beatmakers differ from actual producers in the sense that beatmakers just make the beat. The producers role is to produce the artist, not the beat (not to say they cant do both), which means reinforcing the artists vision, and making sure the art comes out as intended and in the best possible way. The overall feel and direction of the album is a result of the producer and the artist's vision. It's very much a micro vs macro type of thing.

I hate to put these two in the same sentence, but Rick Rubin & DJ Khaled are both producers in the traditional sense. Rick Rubin probably hasn't made a beat in decades, but has produced some of the greatest albums of this century. Do some research into what he actually does to gain a better understanding of it.

I feel like this s*** gets oversimplified on the internet, and people only consider the beats & performance of the rapper as the only factors in making a project. It isnt that black & white.

Mach broke it down like this in an interview with teaatnite:

Peter Luger. Luger doesn't own the farm, Luger doesnt breed or raise the cattle. He doesn't even cook the steak.

However, if you remove Peter Luger from this situation, all you are left with is a very high quality piece of raw meat. He transforms that piece of steak into an experience, and that experience is a direct result of his expertise - but at the end of the day, none of this would be possible without the work of every person involved from the ground up.

That you Droog?

Isn't that what Snoop said about what Dr. Dre did on The Chronic lol