e t

2h

We’ve already been there for a long time. COVID was probably the best example that we already live in a technocracy

Tuneout

2h

my undertsanding of the time period was people were pretty spooked a nuclear destruction was probable.

and climate change is pretty grim. i think the truth is we know it will adversely affect many things, kill many people and there is some runaway effect point we will cross. But the exact outcome and timeline is very hard to estimate. The nuke thing i think was scarier because it wasnt gradual and it was indiscriminate

AI definetly the nuclear arms of the modern day in pandora’s box vibes and the nuclear threat still exists, just with ai now as an added layer of risk

e t

2h

It will solve energy efficiency. If it’s good at anything, it’s math. If it doesn’t, it’s unsolvable but I don’t believe that to be true.

Nort

2h

aaaaaaa idk!!

IDK!!!!!!!!!

Nort

2h

i’m struggling to. i consider myself to be a pretty optimistic person but i’m not quite seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. what do you think? do you feel like we’re on a decline?

Nort

2h

dont we already know our solutions here

wdym big et

Spice Bones

2h

r u chinese

rvi

2h

naw i fw them tho

rvi

2h

decline? no. big changes, yes

aka decline in some ways, growth in some ways, and other ways just hard to compare directly

not saying im just 100% optimistic but i feel like i try to have a realistic view of what will happen like in previous eras and I see human technology advancement in a very reasonable place to be able to overcome obstacles. (While potentially losing out on what some people value in humanity like from a philosophical or spiritual view which is rly subjective)

i have a hard time just seeing us going completely extinct any time soon though anything is possible. humans really hard to kill like cockroaches we gonna bounce back in long run anyway

e t

2h

No, we don’t have any real practical solutions. Reducing the carbon footprint of big government and corporations is like spitting into the ocean. That’s why there is so much pushback against it because it makes sense on paper but can’t be applied to reality without a lot of downside

Nort

2h

i don’t know.

i hate the idea of bringing kids into a bad situation. suffering is relative and we have it better than a lot of places but yeah.

e t

2h

No, we don’t have any real practical solutions. Reducing the carbon footprint of big government and corporations is like spitting into the ocean. That’s why there is so much pushback against it because it makes sense on paper but can’t be applied to reality without a lot of downside

Spice Bones

2h

u gon take me thru there?

Nort

2h

i could see another 150 years left of the human race but the last 50-75 years would probably suck so bad

i want to think more like you on this though

rvi

2h

yeah i agree with you on that but for me its kinda the perspective of the relative suffering thing for me

like im not trying to say anyone should have kids outside their means, but for people that are equipped to be good parents i think its sometimes a little shortsighted if that negative global situation is the deciding factor why they wont have kids

but then also i dont think anyone should have kids if they dont want, part of this is more the preachy anti-natalist internet stuff acting like having kids is now immoral across the board

Tuneout

2h

youre right

people are held hostage by like a dozen companies who own everything and pollute unpunished. and now the world is completely dependant on it, that switching to renewable resources would take generations. and it was all by design.

Tuneout

2h

i truly dont think no matter what happens there will be the end of the human race. there might be large reductions black plague style at worst.

life is extremely extremely resilient

Tuneout

2h

i truly dont think no matter what happens there will be the end of the human race. there might be large reductions black plague style at worst.

life is extremely extremely resilient

Tuneout

3h

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goode_homolosine_projection

this my fvaourite type of map

i love this topic tbh i nerd out on it

rvi

2h

they f***ing hate us

rvi

2h

i think humanity has passed the threshold of where we gonna just go extinct easy like that

like our technology advancement in past few centuries is absolutely nuts