1300SAINT - All Hail
untiljapan - trompe l'oeil
MIKE - Showbiz!
niontay - fada<3of$
Ghais Guevara - Goyard ibn Said
Paris Texas - They Left Me With the Sword & Gun
fakemink - London's Saviour
Nino Paid - Love Me As I Am
El Cousteau - Merci, Non Merci

The only way I can see this being positive is if all the YB garbage dies and a new blog era movement pops up and takes over but I doubt that’s going to happen.

Hip hop might’ve been in a better state when it was more collaborative

Doesn’t help that there isn’t much variety in sound anymore so that when artists do collab it’d make for an interesting clash of styles

Just because it hadn’t happened in 23 years doesn’t mean that’s because it’s doing so bad tho hip hop had more profits in 2023 than it did 23 years ago it just means it’s the first time that thing happened in a while

U can attribute these to other things than hip hop dying man and it can be true it’s not the Pop powerhouse anymore while also still doing well

As I said yea genre dominance is levelling out in streaming, people are listening to more stuff, it’s a transition period, hence naturally hip hop won’t have as much of a #1 spot as it did before

Genre lost goodwill with general audiences that it'll have to get back over the next few years with consistent higher quality output

Might be good for the genre to experience this honestly.

Only thing i can see as potentially a positive is less "fairweather fans" but i feel like if that also means less financial opportunities even for good art that could be a negative

There is a broader shift in everyones art and media consumption regardless that we just dont know how exactly itll end up yet though

i think the sound is more diverse than its ever been

keyword being sound

100%, the early 2010s is literally proof. So many classics

It’s kinda funny, all my favorite albums this year are hip hop. Earl, Cities Aviv, Rome Streetz, Teller Banks, Westside. Lot of good stuff this year.

“ Doesn’t help that there isn’t much variety in sound anymore”

This is the least true thing u can possibly say about modern hip hop honestly this is probably the most it’s ever been in history

cench is solid but i was alluding to the santan dave and little simz types

Does have a point tho, the sound of mainstream hip-hop essentially hasn’t evolved since 2016/17. All just ‘trap’.

We had the exact same number of high quality albums in other years along with the blockbuster slop albums and hits as well. I’d put almost any year from the last decade up against 2025 for quality albums for album

my cousins from germany always try to put me onto german rap after i said i liked the nemzzz and luciano song and its all ass

YB not even close to one of the negatives of modern hiphop

checked stats

Hiphop's share of the streaming market year over year

2016: 28%
2017: 30%
2018: 31.2%
2019: 30.7%
2020: 30.7%
2021: 29.8%
2022: 28.4%
2023: 27%
2024: 25.3%

Since 2016, R&B/Hip-Hop has consistently been the most-streamed genre in the U.S. and has frequently commanded around 30% of the total streaming market

According to nielson

The issue of charts must be a market diversification and label prioritization issue

lowkey, culturally especially for the young ppl hes carrying this s*** on his back i swear to god 😂 thats just how it feels to me

this is the exact same thing an outsider would say about hiphop as a whole

People can call it nostalgic all they want but there was a genuine excitement when artists used to rise together, feature on each others songs and do clique tracks. That was feeding into creating new stars and quickly learning about new artists

The veterans now who become popular with that happening are all fractured now (or outright beefing) and new acts often are finding their ground relatively alone. Its less collaborative and less of a family

Even with some of the variety now it serves more like different pockets of the genre that don't interact. Acts aren't building off each other in the same way

@americana maybe sound is the wrong word, more variety in subject matter more accurate?

Word shoutout to them. went and listened to that raindance with dave and tems its fire

Cench still my favorite of anybody mentioned but im not well versed in UK hiphop/adjacent sub genres like that

also wrong!

Well he said hip hop not specifically mainstream
Secondly one night sounds very different from sprinter, denial is a river or like, fein

agreed

selfish off dave new album too?