Free YoungBoy

7mo

They gonna say its all trash except Jim Legxacy and MIKE

YungDrew

7mo

Don’t say a word brudda 🤫

John Mauve

7mo

Okay.

I'm not gonna say rap music is in the best place if you're a sales = quality propagandist. But changes to the chart algorithm is pretty important background information before declaring mainstream rap is dead forever.

Andre Jaquet

7mo

untiljapan, Lucy bedroque, Edward skeletrix, fakemink, MIKE, McKinley dixon, prettifun, skaiwater, Jane remover, Jim legxacy, to name a few

Btw, 6 of these are self prod most of their music

If u haven’t peep these trust me twin

Corporate Mór

7mo

Miss that year Toronto rap was so big - Smoke Dawg, Pressa, Puffy L’z etc. We were calling it Northern Soul

YANDHI

7mo

Yeah but that doesn't really explain that its really only hip hop falling off the charts right now. There's still a clear issue

Whether you look at charts, new stars across all genres, festival headliners, etc... there's a visible decline for this genre in particular you can't just duck by putting it on everyone

We're not seeing this happen right now in R&B or pop for instance. Young stars in other genres are actively on the charts right now and some who've stuck around for a bit are seeing career years. Hip hop has been on the opposite trend for a couple years now

Classique

7mo

People gonna keep hating but the UK is putting out legit stars in rap that are selling well over there and having skill and substance

Classique

7mo

i was listening to smoke dawg today man that toronto era was too crazy

Classique

7mo

i was listening to smoke dawg today man that toronto era was too crazy

spongebob

7mo

Ill see yall in Central Cee sxn

John Mauve

7mo

It's strange because musically the genre is doing better than the last few years from what I've been enjoying. That's worth more than there being no new Drake slop on the charts right now

spongebob

7mo

Ill see yall in Central Cee sxn

John Mauve

7mo

It's strange because musically the genre is doing better than the last few years from what I've been enjoying. That's worth more than there being no new Drake slop on the charts right now

Andre Jaquet

7mo

It’s really simple hip hop is just plateauing in commercial growth while pop is going up and country is going up (due to Morgan wallen and cowboy Carter and MAINLY the demographic growth in streaming, country going from local radio shacks to Spotify) again it’s still #1, and it still has the highest turnover rate of new artists commercially and it still has a tight grip on youth culture

and this is while it’s in a transition state mind you

It’s not people have stopped listening to hip hop it’s just they are also listening to other things more and the commercial viability of genres is becoming less one sided

Corporate Mór

7mo

Miss that year Toronto rap was so big - Smoke Dawg, Pressa, Puffy L’z etc. We were calling it Northern Soul

Freight

7mo

I promise you it’s not doing better. There’s just less of what you don’t like. That doesn’t automatically equate to more of what you like it just means less diversity

YANDHI

7mo

I'd argue we've been past the plateau for a few years now easily. This is the downturn and its been evident for a while, just delayed by moments like Kendrick's run and other hits now and then. Or when Drake releases

Signs have been here for a while

August 2023:

For the first time in 23 years, a peculiar moment occurs on the Billboard Hot 100, where an entire year has gone by without a rap track reaching No. 1.

https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/no-rap-songs-one-year-hot-100-nicki-minaj-1235400198/

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Again in 2023

fun guy

7mo

Damn I didn't know people outside Canada listened or cared about Toronto rap

So many of them died its f***ed up

Corporate Mór

7mo

When Day in the Life dropped I thought he was the new Pac

Andre Jaquet

7mo

You can argue that all u like but we have numbers on this man it’s verifiably false we know hip hop’s commercial growth it is plateud since 2023, 2018-2022 it got as high as it could lol it severely dominated over all other forms of music and kept growing. It’s still #1 over all of them just not the way it was

I know that one stat I was around that don’t mean anything broader than there wasn’t a #1 yet at that point in 2023, which wasn’t a very commercially successful year and it still was the #1 genre that year.