I broke up with Playboi Carti and now Dave blunts is my best friend!
Also my wife left me;
It's almost like mental illness is a spectrum and you are able to talk lucid and cautious even in an episode bro it's not just one thing fam you really showing yourself to be an idiot these last few pages.
Username to post ratio accurate dog get off this nigga's sack bro. College Dropout came out 20 years.
He delivered the beliefs he's held before the trauma people attribute to him (becoming hated/famous, losing his mother) in a lucid and cautious way, maybe I oversimplified it but the presumption of Ye's mental illness is based on him only starting to say and believe these things in the last 3 years when thats simply not true
The one thing we agree on is that he's not doing well, but I have a couple problems with this that make it hard for me to say that "mental illness" is all this is
Firstly the assumptions about being "mentally ill" and what it means for someone, I know people who have the same detached from reality beliefs about life and how everything is a conspiracy, these same people manifest it into harmful personality traits (functional addictions, not taking care of their hygiene, hoarding) but I would not suggest they be put in a mental hospital/clinic for it
Secondly there have been threads of these beliefs throughout his whole career, he wanted to name Yeezus "Hard r cock", he was fascinated with Hitler in College Dropout days (he made people in the studio say 1 positive thing about Hitler before the session started), he had a whole verse dissing fat women in Late Registration era, he played with black Klan hood aesthetics in Yeezus era, his interview talking about Amber Rose and how he needed "30 showers, the Tyga/Kylie stuff
To me its clear he's had these nasty beliefs all along, I have a problem with people that say based on that he needs help and he's mentally ill because it's been in him all along, the public harassment campaigns of people like Jay-Z's kids and Kim are different and I would grant that aggression being bipolar caused but I dislike how people give all his behaviour the blanket term of "mental illness" when that wouldn't have been the case when he held these beliefs privately but was making music people liked, overall I have more of a problem with people's hypocrisy than anything
Firstly the assumptions about being "mentally ill" and what it means for someone, I know people who have the same detached from reality beliefs about life and how everything is a conspiracy, these same people manifest it into harmful personality traits (functional addictions, not taking care of their hygiene, hoarding) but I would not suggest they be put in a mental hospital/clinic for it
and that's where you would be f***ing wrong nigga lol. A LOT OF PEOPLE NEED TO BE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL/CLINIC THAN YOU'D THINK.
Mans said "not taking care of their hygiene" is just a choice that mentally healthy individuals make.
To me it's clear he's had these nasty beliefs all along
AND FROM THE MAN'S OWN MOTHER MOUTH HE'S HAD SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESSES FOR A LONG ASS TIME BEFORE HE STARTED MAKING 5 BEATS A DAY FOR 3 SUMMERS.
'she wanna hop on that rari'
well she hopped on that maybach and went away
He delivered the beliefs he's held before the trauma people attribute to him (becoming hated/famous, losing his mother) in a lucid and cautious way, maybe I oversimplified it but the presumption of Ye's mental illness is based on him only starting to say and believe these things in the last 3 years when thats simply not true
They told my mama I was bipolar had ADD

You are talking to someone that religiously loved Dreamkillers bro, don't make presumptions for everybody.
And the type of over obsession someone like Ye had is not something that a neurotypical human being has dawg.
(he made people in the studio say 1 positive thing about Hitler before the session started)
This is just a mentally healthy thing to do lol.
Like f*** no nigga it's weird as hell and you definitely got some demons type clayton bigsby inside but I'm lil' ol Rhymefest and ye the only way cacs like you are gonna hear my raps so I'ma say Hitler made good paintings and get this session started so he don't Don C me on twitter.
And that's how every collaborator around that time mentally justified working with a crazy nigga that's always been a crazy nigga.
He delivered the beliefs he's held before the trauma people attribute to him (becoming hated/famous, losing his mother) in a lucid and cautious way, maybe I oversimplified it but the presumption of Ye's mental illness is based on him only starting to say and believe these things in the last 3 years when thats simply not true
Barely anyone knows anything you're talking about that is pre MBDTF besides the hardcore Kanye community and even then it has its conflicting stories and revisions
But it's the same thing that people act surprised about the Kanye p*** company he was gonna do when he's always been a p*** and s***addict from watching p*** in the studio during 808s, having amber suck his d*** during MBDTF sessions and playing hentai complilations on a projector during the grad release album party etc.
He as a person and even in his own literal music has always been partly about the two halves of him - the devious idiot and the holy revolutionary
But I think we need to also stop pretending that anything we ever heard or seen from Kanye has been as bad as it is now. That is simply not the case and the s*** before the late 2010s could be chalked up to quirky artist s*** or just being a strange person in general but it wasn't at an extreme or as real as it's been since like 2019/2020/2021 that has no excuses or bigger picture or quirk
Don't start pretending he's always been this bad or even near this extreme and straight up just to protect/justify who he is today
They told my mama I was bipolar had ADD
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHzOwbOZ8HIYou are talking to someone that religiously loved Dreamkillers bro, don't make presumptions for everybody.
And the type of over obsession someone like Ye had is not something that a neurotypical human being has dawg.
I think I misrepresented myself, I might've gotten into side debates but my point is that Ye has been bigoted longer than the past 3 years, I'm not a psychiatrist and you're totally right that I'm not in a position to say whether or not his bigoted beliefs are from bipolar delusions or from "neurotypical" delusions, I just dislike when people act like he started being bigoted a few years ago (which is not at all a defence it's a criticism of stan culture)
My family's from ex-Yugoslavia, Sarajevo specifically, and moved in the 90s (I think you know what that means) and I have first hand experience with bigoted people that have trauma, I might be slightly jaded on them because hearing homophobia (for obviously personal reasons) is exhausting and I lose patience with them, I think we'd all do better to be more forgiving and focus on education instead of punishment but figuring out what point to start excusing bigots because they're mentally ill is tough and you acting like it's so easy is simplistic, I don't think you'd grant the same compassion to obviously mentally ill loser cacs and I wouldn't blame you
Bianca is Dave blunts
Rotfl @ Bianca really being the feds ala big mommas house
Its getting sadder and sadder each day
(he made people in the studio say 1 positive thing about Hitler before the session started)
This is just a mentally healthy thing to do lol.
Like f*** no nigga it's weird as hell and you definitely got some demons type clayton bigsby inside but I'm lil' ol Rhymefest and ye the only way cacs like you are gonna hear my raps so I'ma say Hitler made good paintings and get this session started so he don't Don C me on twitter.
And that's how every collaborator around that time mentally justified working with a crazy nigga that's always been a crazy nigga.
I don't know how you took that as me blaming the people in the studio
of course they're gonna appease the weirdo that's paying for the session
I think I misrepresented myself, I might've gotten into side debates but my point is that Ye has been bigoted longer than the past 3 years, I'm not a psychiatrist and you're totally right that I'm not in a position to say whether or not his bigoted beliefs are from bipolar delusions or from "neurotypical" delusions, I just dislike when people act like he started being bigoted a few years ago (which is not at all a defence it's a criticism of stan culture)
My family's from ex-Yugoslavia, Sarajevo specifically, and moved in the 90s (I think you know what that means) and I have first hand experience with bigoted people that have trauma, I might be slightly jaded on them because hearing homophobia (for obviously personal reasons) is exhausting and I lose patience with them, I think we'd all do better to be more forgiving and focus on education instead of punishment but figuring out what point to start excusing bigots because they're mentally ill is tough and you acting like it's so easy is simplistic, I don't think you'd grant the same compassion to obviously mentally ill loser cacs and I wouldn't blame you
Eh I think he’s been ill for a long time tbh.
I don't think you'd grant the same compassion to obviously mentally ill loser cacs
I don’t really got compassion for ye (I feel he needs to get his ass beat) and I’ve shed tears to Only One lmao
I’d say those loser cacs are mentally ill and deserve to get they ass beat, but they should be also put in an asylum.
Mental illness does not absolve one from an ass beating
(or even worse if we talking bout losers that want to inflict actual harm on vulnerable communities)
I don't know how you took that as me blaming the people in the studio
of course they're gonna appease the weirdo that's paying for the session
I didnt say you blamed the people what I’m saying (through hyperbole cause im sure ye had some pushback but those niggas aint in the credits) is ye was protected versus now when he’s not because he dont serve purpose to the industry no more due to the fact he sucks now
Ye West forced permanent retirement soon Inshallah
What the f*** is wrong with him
Eh I think he’s been ill for a long time tbh.
I don't think you'd grant the same compassion to obviously mentally ill loser cacs
I don’t really got compassion for ye (I feel he needs to get his ass beat) and I’ve shed tears to Only One lmao
I’d say those loser cacs are mentally ill and deserve to get they ass beat, but they should be also put in an asylum.
Mental illness does not absolve one from an ass beating
(or even worse if we talking bout losers that want to inflict actual harm on vulnerable communities)
Your previous posts about Ye and his mental illness to me reads as a type of compassion for him which I am lacking but I understand, I think you have a unique perspective to everyone else on this site about Ye which I respect (maybe not so much going as far as beating him up but alas...), if I mention a pejorative "people" in the future don't think I'm referring to you
Ultimately my big problem is stan culture (of people that are big fans of Ye) and how people pick and choose to care about Ye's bigotry when it's convenient, but I think I've changed my mind a bit because his pre late 2010s bigotry wasn't as widely publicised so it's unfair of me to expect people to know he's been like this
I view the issue of Ye in the sphere of the specifically 2020s type of defeatist, ahistorical, anti-intellectual attitude towards art, where people discount and forget the past and today's emerging problems are worse than any other problems, I would have to write a whole essay to properly explain it so I won't
I could write a few dissertations on other stuff too but no one would care (and I’m not as thoughtful as my inspirations… 🤣)