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without streaming I would just go back to pirating music lol I ain’t paying for every album.
I do go to concerts, buy merch or physicals if I really like the project.
but that doesn’t make sense
then, only huge fans get the “preview”, alienating anyone who would’ve listened at a later date
Idk to me it’s like you missed a movie in theaters and had to rent it or wait for it to come out free on streamers. We could go the 15-30 second preview route like iTunes went, we could have in-app radio stations where you could tune in and discover new music and then choose to purchase it. And this is all chosen by the artist/label obv. In the beginning of your music career you would probably opt to just let your music be available to everyone right away and just collect your crumb royalties in the name of exposure.
But I think for a lot of artists with established fanbases, this could serve as a nice middle ground.
even if its not the ideal approach, its worth having as a conversation. i think there’s always gonna be a loser in the equation, whether its the fans or the artists. the loser is never the labels, and that unfortunately, is the biggest problem of them all
Honestly no. I know this site has its gripes with streaming and although I agree with some takes I find it extremely beneficial to have access to virtually anything I want to listen to at my fingertips at a fixed cost
There is literally no ethical way for this to work yo lol
I can’t speak for anyone else but for me. I have found a lot of great music and it has increased my love and joy for music tremendously. I realize I am probably an outlier, but selfishly that’s good enough for me. Not really my problem to deal with reshaping the industry you know?
End this paragraph with some selfish ass s*** lmaooooo
End this paragraph with some selfish ass s*** lmaooooo
I just said it was for me big dawg
There are bands who strictly release physical music
Godspeed You! Black Emperor being the best example
There are bands who strictly release physical music
Godspeed You! Black Emperor being the best example
Godspeed took their stuff off streaming but you can still buy digital copies on Bandcamp
Smashing Pumpkins releases a ton of music physical-only tho
The premise is right but people fail to bring up that pre-streaming era methods of consumption the artists or anyone else involved in the actual production process never got their “full value” and it’s been captured by labels, distributions, etc
the streaming era just further alienated both producers and consumers from the entire circulation of music while a “song” primary function becomes further removed from any artistic merit and just a commodity to generate $$$ for capitalists
This was true before hand but it’s much clearer to see in a time like now, where individual singles or “hits”, curated playlists, “deluxe” albums, bundles, etc and all the various marketing tactics artists and labels use to get ppl to stream more kind of just bring to the forefront how far removed from artistic merit being sole primary quality when making music is,
It’s instead just a digital unit needed to generate surplus value, whatever artistic quality it holds is second
The premise is right but people fail to bring up that pre-streaming era methods of consumption the artists or anyone else involved in the actual production process never got their “full value” and it’s been captured by labels, distributions, etc
the streaming era just further alienated both producers and consumers from the entire circulation of music while a “song” primary function becomes further removed from any artistic merit and just a commodity to generate $$$ for capitalists
The only way s*** really works is direct to consumer tbh.
We’re gonna see a small decrease bit by bit in artists dropping on DSPs ESPECIALLY as the cost of living continues to increase, cause this s*** is not sustainable lol
Godspeed took their stuff off streaming but you can still buy digital copies on Bandcamp
Smashing Pumpkins releases a ton of music physical-only tho
Yeah but Bandcamp they take full profit from
I see your point though, grey area because you can still 'stream' it
Are consumers really benefitting from streaming?
Sure, we have access to all the music we could ever dream of. But at what cost?
Music has been devalued more than any other medium over the past decade, and streaming is directly to blame
what does the average consumer care if an artists work is devalued
Streaming has made everything less artistic. It’s not just music that has suffered—cinema is in hell, tv shows used to be incredible 90’s, 00s and early 10s. Now it’s maybe 1-2 memorable/culturally significant shows every 5 years.
—and they take 5 years to make 5 episodes
man shows used to be 20+ one hour episodes a season and then they’d slap you with a new 20+ show season in a year. Even sports have been greatly affected—music just moving downhill faster than the others. It feels the most soulless of all the arts rn. And it’s half streaming, half social media
Lets be real tho half of those 20+ episodes were pure filler dogshit
Tbh, streaming companies already ruining the user experience.
Might as well load up good old Soulseek
Finding an api key and downloading as many albums as you want without being limited by p2p transfer speeds >
what does the average consumer care if an artists work is devalued
If artists cant earn a living wage then the music the average consumer consumes is gonna get a lot s***ter
I can’t speak for anyone else but for me. I have found a lot of great music and it has increased my love and joy for music tremendously. I realize I am probably an outlier, but selfishly that’s good enough for me. Not really my problem to deal with reshaping the industry you know?
I dont think you are an outlier at all. People havent listened to music as much they do today. This site is too hard against streaming imo. Lots of artists are making a good living because of streaming and people are now going to their shows and bookings across the country/globe whereas before they wouldnt even know the artist existed outside of some poeple in their hometown
I dont think you are an outlier at all. People havent listened to music as much they do today. This site is too hard against streaming imo. Lots of artists are making a good living because of streaming and people are now going to their shows and bookings across the country/globe whereas before they wouldnt even know the artist existed outside of some poeple in their hometown
Seeing a lot of variety on my IG stories for people’s Spotify wrapped and whatnot really made me be like
I dont think you are an outlier at all. People havent listened to music as much they do today. This site is too hard against streaming imo. Lots of artists are making a good living because of streaming and people are now going to their shows and bookings across the country/globe whereas before they wouldnt even know the artist existed outside of some poeple in their hometown
Survivorship bias man. It's not like streaming brought up the amount of wealth for artists. It just shifted it around to a new group of people. Plenty of artists are f***ed over despite being successful.