Streaming has made everything less artistic. It’s not just music that has suffered—cinema is in hell, tv shows used to be incredible 90’s, 00s and early 10s. Now it’s maybe 1-2 memorable/culturally significant shows every 5 years.
—and they take 5 years to make 5 episodes man shows used to be 20+ one hour episodes a season and then they’d slap you with a new 20+ show season in a year. Even sports have been greatly affected—music just moving downhill faster than the others. It feels the most soulless of all the arts rn. And it’s half streaming, half social media

Nobody would pay for streaming if that was the format

I’m not sure where contractual obligations lie with these streaming services, but if most major labels and independent artists got together and said “This is the only model we’ll accept and if you can’t accommodate that we won’t release music with you anymore”, you don’t think the services and therefore the consumer would kinda be forced to accept it?

This makes sense but still harkens back too much to the older way of doing things.

I think a good mix of the old way and a modern way would be:

• Digital-only release for the first week or so, but priced cheaper than the usual $9.99. There’s no physical product being sold, so there’s no reason it should be the same price as a physical CD. $4.99 is what I would consider a fair price

• Second/third/fourth weeks is when the physical copies start rolling out. Vinyl, CD, cassette, all of it, and maybe each format has a different bonus track to incentivize the purchase

• One month post-release is when it drops for free on streaming (if we wanna get really radical then we include a timed limit for all albums on streaming OR a timed limit on when their streams still count as new sales; I’m thinking somewhere between 3-5 years)

A method somewhat like this would work for everyone involved: the artist, the label, and the consumer. Everybody eats at different stages of the process

Tuesday physical release with a Friday streaming release so we can go back to harassing Target employees to leak s***

$15 a month for the entire back catalog of music history and $1 a song / $15 an album for new releases you’re excited about and can’t wait for them to be free to stream?

I’d pay that

rules for art never work lmao

I don't hate the idea for myself either but I feel like it'd turn streaming into a music enthusiast format. The masses really don't care about back catalogs like that. That's why Drake's discography is more valuable than multiple decades of music combined

I really just think it's on us to buy the music right now and buy the merch. Like you could pay for your streaming and pay $15 for the album right now on Apple

It don't say that in the bible.

I guess they got discontinued because nobody liked them. Didn’t taste good tbh

execs running this thread through chatgpt for ideas on more ways to take artists money and limit releases

You're right, the Jews would never be okay with this.

That’s because these people don’t know nothing about the user experience.

I’d rather open an app and immediately be able to listen to a song instead of having to purchase, download, and then listen. It’s too much work compared to streaming

its time to evaluate your kpi's please see me in my office

That’s actually how I plan of releasing my projects, but I’ll still put it out digitally

I really think artists should put only their singles on streaming, then leave their albums in the iTunes Store or anywhere else, where they can purchase their albums on release day.

Depending on the art’s success, I would put the album on streaming after 1 year of its initial release.

@fader

Respectfully bro this is ass

Tbh, streaming companies already ruining the user experience.

Might as well load up good old Soulseek

but that doesn’t make sense

then, only huge fans get the “preview”, alienating anyone who would’ve listened at a later date

I swear an old KTT1 poster wrote up a waaay better streaming model than the current one & it had minimal change to overall royalties for major acts but it also made things more viable for smaller acts

Not sure if he's still on here, maybe Lyor Cohen sent the black trucks after him

Highly unlikely the industry would ever redo its whole self over like this to benefit artists

Grape grape or tiktok grape?

Whats a tiktok grape

Even as an artist whose f***ed by streaming I still completely see the value as a fan

Its by far the best time Ive ever had consuming music

Sounds like the work of Safe