Here's where it gets iffy tho
Prose (even taking into account the structures and limitations of novelization) stems from how we communicate irl. We have an innate understanding of it for the most part, even if we aren't as technically proficient as a Stephen King or Ray Bradbury.
Songwriting on the other hand is taking the poetic form (which in itself is limiting to how we communicate irl) and music theory (which is limiting to words period) and mixing the two to be satisfying.
So essentially, making something as juvenile and lacking in substance as repeating Gucci Gang a million times work for millions of people is (theoretically) more difficult than JK Rowling's last chapter of the Deathly Hallows
yeah you’re right that there’s a lot of facets in music that has to snap into place perfectly to gain fans, but also that kinda leaves little room for error too provided you have the personnel for it lol
look at solange’s new s***, most of it is just pretty airy prod, with her repeating the same lines over and over and over and it sounds nice, but in terms of lyricism/substance there isn’t too much to glean from it at all, but that’s fine because the project as a whole sounds very nice to listen to and that’s all that really matters
writing is solely just words, you have to tie up your plots perfectly, write engaging characters, side characters, write out and invent a world (provided it’s not like non-fiction) use vocabulary properly, punctuation etc. songwriting in general is much more flexible when it comes to language in lieu of writing where it has to be put a certain way or you have the potential to lose meaning
but i agree with you on the sentiment that just because someone can write a fantastic book that doesn’t automatically translate into good songwriting, and just as for the vice versa too tbh. you have to be very great at either or to truly stand out and actually break out one way or another unless there’s some sort of external appeal (which music usually has, books not so much)
I think I may be wrong in saying that it takes more "skill" to master songwriting than literary prose
What I'm really trying to say is prose is inherently more natural to how people communicate and express emotions than songwriting
That's true
But does the importance of flow/melody and riding a beat well (for all genres) put a monkey wrench in the whole thing?
That might have to do with styles and it's hard to factor that in. Same way it's not fair to always point out writers being more descriptive than artists when artists dont always have to do that.
a book is literally predicated on it’s topic/story and that’s all it has to work with provided it’s not like a comic or some s***
music has production, aesthetic, the artist itself, marketing, the cover, visuals, voice, etc. that can all make up for poor doggybag songwriting
rocky is a great example of this actually, he’s not a particularly impressive songwriter at all, but his beat choice (at least pre-testing) is top notch and his flow is amazing, so that makes up for it
a book is literally predicated on it’s topic/story and that’s all it has to work with provided it’s not like a comic or some s***
music has production, aesthetic, the artist itself, marketing, the cover, visuals, voice, etc. that can all make up for poor doggybag songwriting
So basically the role of words in literature is split off into a bunch of different s*** in music
Can't even really compare the two then
So basically the role of words in literature is split off into a bunch of different s*** in music
Can't even really compare the two then
tbh. both are really amazing when you look at it closer
@Ignance_ we gonna do user awards week after thanksgiving?
@Ignance_ we gonna do user awards week after thanksgiving?
lol how
it’s a brand new site there’s no classic posts no classic threads no nothing
u cant even quote niggas posts outside of its own thread yet
host the playlist tournament if anything
lol how
it’s a brand new site there’s no classic posts no classic threads no nothing
u cant even quote niggas posts outside of its own thread yet
host the playlist tournament if anything
u right
we can link to indiv. posts though and everything can just come from ktt
but we also cant search on ktt anymore
u right
we can link to indiv. posts though and everything can just come from ktt
but we also cant search on ktt anymore
s***s sad tbh
finally
You can't @ a person whose muted your name wouldn't show up so I thought you asked for a perma
You can't @ a person whose muted your name wouldn't show up so I thought you asked for a perma
my old name was 999999xxyxyyyyyy so maybe that was it
You can't @ a person whose muted your name wouldn't show up so I thought you asked for a perma
i told u on ktt i was muted till wednesday tho