radiant child

5y

Tyler has eclectic taste and he knows good music when he hears it, Uzi could benefit from his ear but he should’ve also trusted his own way more, to the point that he only would’ve changed a few things due to Tyler’s criticisms

mgfverse

5y

Damn Mike's been with him for how long? s*** sad to see - wonder what broke him after all these years

afterimage

5y

Yep. Meanwhile you gotta millions of people breathing down your neck because you announced the release date prematurely

I’d imagine it’s a s***show in that environment right now

I genuinely don’t understand why Kanye does this to himself. He probably can’t help it and I understand slightly because I’m a spontaneous and unorganized person but damn you got a whole team of people with you too. I ain’t just you to think about lol.

Of course idk what’s going on behind the scenes but

mgfverse

5y

Damn Mike's been with him for how long? s*** sad to see - wonder what broke him after all these years

fashion killa

5y

most definitely.

mbdtf was a beautiful merging of powerful features.

donda is just a bizarre mix of random rappers that someone probably played kanye or he heard about on twitter. I think a lot of it just has to do w him getting old. Kanye has said on record that he doesn't keep up with rap. he doesn't listen to modern hip hop. and that's fine, because he's never really tried to make modern rap, he always just does what he likes. for a long time, whatever he did became modern rap. When he put together the feature list on mbdtf it was a bunch of artist who came up with or around him, and people who's music he was genuinely a big fan of.

the sense i get w donda is that kanye said "i'm gonna make christian music cool. I'm gonna put christianity into cool rap songs" and then realized he doesn't know what "cool rap songs" even means. It seems like he grabbed a bunch of guys who he heard were popular with the kids and threw them on whatever tracks he felt like. This time around it really doesn't seem like there's a deep connection with most of the features at all. I really doubt Kanye and Lil Durk are close outside of the recording studio.

Honestly this keeps going with the beats. I think Kanye has picked up that short zaytoven style 808s are popular now, but hasn't realized how important drumkits are in this digital age. You need the right hats claps snares etc to make a good beat. when it's homebrewed stuff it has to be either really well done or really unique, otherwise it just sounds cheap and off brand. and that's exactly what's happened with so many of these beats, the 808s especially. For all my producer people out there, I think most of the donda beats sound like attempts at modern instrumentals made with only stock sounds. It doesn't sound like one (or even a few) producers coherent vision, it sounds like a product of session musicians and a bunch of inexperienced producers. while im at it, this is exactly why I hate take a daytrip's production, it just sounds like a lab made imitation of what real production is.

fashion killa

5y

agreed

the people's opinion tends to be really stupid.

great example of this is the dichotomy of uzi and carti

uzi let the fans dictate EA, even had them choose the cover art and which songs were on the deluxe. He let tyler's opinion DRAMATICALLY affect the album even though tyler has no business in uzi's lane. and he dropped a wholly mid-tier album (and this is coming from someone who believes uzi never released a sub-par project before then)

Carti didnt give a s*** what his fans said and only put two of the many leaks fans wanted on his album. And while that received plenty of initial backlash, it's become a massive critical success since and is widely regarded as an overall great album.

Malcolm

5y

if you're trying to put out an album for commercial audiences tyler should be the last person you need an opinion from.

Malcolm

5y

if you're trying to put out an album for commercial audiences tyler should be the last person you need an opinion from.

CKL TML

5y

Mike: im not doing well in that toxic environment

Kanye stans: ok but finish donda

Jonboi

5y

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How you gonna have album art that looks that hard and have the songs be 80% ANNOYING?

fashion killa

5y

which album r u talking abt lol

EA art was mid as F***, shoulda been that heaven's gate s***

WLR was definitely not 80% annoying tho...

Jonboi

5y

How you gonna have album art that looks that hard and have the songs be 80% ANNOYING?

Josh

5y

Mike Dean is too old and been around for too long to announce an “Instagram purge” lmao

CLB Drunk Driver

5y

Ye good. Kanye did the dropout trilogy and Graduation without C***Dean, he’s got Cons still, Malik still writing for him, Donda still saved

afterimage

5y

Baby Pluto : OH S*** THIS IS HARD, UZI BACK

Lo Mein: I mean, this good but I liked baby Pluto better

Silly Watch: hey, this kinda sounds like the last song, but I guess it’s ight

Pop: bro am I listening to the same f***ing song in a row?

You better move: in one ear out the other

glassrainbow

5y

Yeah I can’t believe the way he screamed at Mike Dean like that. So f***ed up. During this album about his mom and how Jesus has changed him and s***. F*** all that

Mitch Baker

5y

I heard mike dean be taking credit for s*** he didn’t do in the studio when it comes to smaller artists Bink! called him out on it…

theboy

5y

he always been a messy b**** tho

what kind of adult goes on ktt and tries to argue with trolls