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  • Jan 22, 2022
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    Worldpremiere_

    Its amazing. Theres a gem on damn near every page

    Might have to pick it up. Any Friday plans?

  • Jan 22, 2022
    Astronaut Dad

    Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was myself. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man

    this is great.

  • Worldpremiere_ ๐ŸงŸ
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    Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    Might have to pick it up. Any Friday plans?

    Nah, but had a small bout of my intense anger, leading to an eye opening and productive talk wit my pops about our experiences in life, our roots, why we are the way we are, and our journeys to heal.

    another W for meditation and buddhism. Ive never bounced back from that intense state that quick ever. There wouldnt have been a conversation, and i wouldve blacked out.

    I wouldve done something crazy if this was 4 years ago, and s*** wasnt a big deal at all.

    like i said i got alot of work to do. But im glad i got this s*** in my life man.

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    Worldpremiere_

    Nah, but had a small bout of my intense anger, leading to an eye opening and productive talk wit my pops about our experiences in life, our roots, why we are the way we are, and our journeys to heal.

    another W for meditation and buddhism. Ive never bounced back from that intense state that quick ever. There wouldnt have been a conversation, and i wouldve blacked out.

    I wouldve done something crazy if this was 4 years ago, and s*** wasnt a big deal at all.

    like i said i got alot of work to do. But im glad i got this s*** in my life man.

    Anger such a destructive emotion. Can be very difficult to control. Good that you kept your head on your shoulders, especially with family. S*** takes work sometimes fr

  • Worldpremiere_ ๐ŸงŸ
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    Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    Anger such a destructive emotion. Can be very difficult to control. Good that you kept your head on your shoulders, especially with family. S*** takes work sometimes fr

    Fr bro. Thats my biggest thing and even tho i still got angry, It was only for 2 minutes before i calmed down enough to talk it through. Thats unheard of for me boi id be seething even right now.

  • Jan 22, 2022
    Worldpremiere_

    Fr bro. Thats my biggest thing and even tho i still got angry, It was only for 2 minutes before i calmed down enough to talk it through. Thats unheard of for me boi id be seething even right now.

    Once u cut the ego in half afflictive emotions have no ground to root themselves in fr

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    woke up and lost "it". wonder why there's this sorta essential pulling toward a self.

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    @Biginthegame I just watched this and was instantly reminded of you for some reason.Its Jim Carrey in a 6 minute short film talking about his art and thoughts on life and stuff.

    I really think you'd relate both as an artist and as someone connected to his spiritual side.

    Lmk if you ever get around it

    vimeo.com/226379658

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    oat milk

    woke up and lost "it". wonder why there's this sorta essential pulling toward a self.

    wym

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    woof

    wym

    think he's saying he had a kensho experience yesterday but he woke up today and his sense of self was back

  • Jan 22, 2022
    Astronaut Dad

    think he's saying he had a kensho experience yesterday but he woke up today and his sense of self was back

    if thats the case than they should just keep practicing.

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    woof

    wym

    the true self is devoid of any quality or essence but theres this force that wants to convince you "i am these thoughts, i am this person and this body".

    just wondering why that pull exists at all.

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    think he's saying he had a kensho experience yesterday but he woke up today and his sense of self was back

    you ever read this,

    awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html

    reminds me of the zen 10 ox herding pictures

  • Worldpremiere_ ๐ŸงŸ
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    Jan 22, 2022
    kiddash3r

    @Biginthegame I just watched this and was instantly reminded of you for some reason.Its Jim Carrey in a 6 minute short film talking about his art and thoughts on life and stuff.

    I really think you'd relate both as an artist and as someone connected to his spiritual side.

    Lmk if you ever get around it

    https://vimeo.com/226379658

    man thats f***in dope u thought of me man lol. I fw u fr. Imma watch this when i get off work

  • Jan 22, 2022
    oat milk

    the true self is devoid of any quality or essence but theres this force that wants to convince you "i am these thoughts, i am this person and this body".

    just wondering why that pull exists at all.

    I see what youre saying, (from what I understand at this point) Its probably due to the essential clinging and desire of existence. Also peep the 10 fetters in buddhism if you havent. specifically the first one

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    woof

    you ever read this,

    http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html

    reminds me of the zen 10 ox herding pictures

    ive been meditating for a long time, even if you have these realizations they never last. its our nature to have an ego for social purposes, i feel like we're just building a skill that prevents more suffering through being able to cut through the narratives that perpetuate the afflictive emotions as opposed to really achieving a permanent "nirvana". even dzogchen acknowledges samsara and nirvana are inseparable

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    but idk maybe i just need to go deeper. maybe a 1000 hours later in meditation i will feel no pain and be in a constant place of blissful non dual awareness sounds f***ing absurd though

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    ive been meditating for a long time, even if you have these realizations they never last. its our nature to have an ego for social purposes, i feel like we're just building a skill that prevents more suffering through being able to cut through the narratives that perpetuate the afflictive emotions as opposed to really achieving a permanent "nirvana". even dzogchen acknowledges samsara and nirvana are inseparable

    most realizations are just experiences and more like cool things you can realize or help you keep going.

  • Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    but idk maybe i just need to go deeper. maybe a 1000 hours later in meditation i will feel no pain and be in a constant place of blissful non dual awareness sounds f***ing absurd though

    i think there can be """permament""" shifts. I cant say what that looks like, it seems more like removing obstacles because there is no such thing as "attaining enlightenment". All the great teachers say theres nothing to attain

    Most people in this thread have more experience in meditating than me, I just read alot about it i guess. I'm more in the boat now where Id rather remove as much suffering as I can and enought fantasizing about altered states or reading about it.

  • Jan 22, 2022
    woof

    most realizations are just experiences and more like cool things you can realize or help you keep going.

    yeah thats how i look at them as well. its ironic that these are supposed to be "egoless" or experiences of "non-self" but then once we have them we immediately and subconsciously try to integrate into our personality and sense of self lol. just more clinging

  • Jan 22, 2022
    woof

    i think there can be """permament""" shifts. I cant say what that looks like, it seems more like removing obstacles because there is no such thing as "attaining enlightenment". All the great teachers say theres nothing to attain

    Most people in this thread have more experience in meditating than me, I just read alot about it i guess. I'm more in the boat now where Id rather remove as much suffering as I can and enought fantasizing about altered states or reading about it.

    i think there can be """permament""" shifts. I cant say what that looks like, it seems more like removing obstacles because there is no such thing as "attaining enlightenment". All the great teachers say theres nothing to attain

    this is also a good point to raise

  • Jan 22, 2022

    there is wisdom, but no sage to understand it
    there are sounds, but no ears to hear them
    there are words, but no mouth to speak them
    there are sights, but no eyes to see them
    there's a self, but no one to experience it
    where is my real body?

  • Worldpremiere_ ๐ŸงŸ
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    Jan 22, 2022
    kiddash3r

    @Biginthegame I just watched this and was instantly reminded of you for some reason.Its Jim Carrey in a 6 minute short film talking about his art and thoughts on life and stuff.

    I really think you'd relate both as an artist and as someone connected to his spiritual side.

    Lmk if you ever get around it

    https://vimeo.com/226379658

    Man i relate to every syllable of this. His isolation, his internal darkness and his yearning for brightness, the love of life showing thru his art, The presence that making art gives and how obsessive it can get.

    I f***in love jim carrey. Thank you for this.

  • Worldpremiere_ ๐ŸงŸ
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    Jan 22, 2022
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    Astronaut Dad

    but idk maybe i just need to go deeper. maybe a 1000 hours later in meditation i will feel no pain and be in a constant place of blissful non dual awareness sounds f***ing absurd though

    yeah, that isnt even the goal for me either.

  • NeonNigga23 โ™ป๏ธ
    Jan 22, 2022
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    Iโ€™ve been praying lately but my thoughts are always clouded I wanna pick up meditating too where do I start?

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