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    uncanny

    Sir Alex was a penny pincher, trusted youth, and didn't like dealing with agents. Money was always there, he spent when he wanted

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    Valenciaisthebest

    Have you not seen how our other optimistic summers went those last 10 years? Doing the same thing is classified as insanity.

    Well, what do you want to me to be, negative?

    I'm optimistic cause I think we've finally brought in a manager that is ahead of the curve. Players are whatever. The manager and his coaching is the key.

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    DwindlingSun

    Well, what do you want to me to be, negative?

    I'm optimistic cause I think we've finally brought in a manager that is ahead of the curve. Players are whatever. The manager and his coaching is the key.

    No one is complaining about the manager but we’ve seen that Glazers will do everything in their power to undermine him and ultimately steal from the club.

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    Valenciaisthebest

    No one is complaining about the manager but we’ve seen that Glazers will do everything in their power to undermine him and ultimately steal from the club.

    Nothing I, you, or anyone can do about our ownership. Good luck with changing that. If you perceive it as so hopeless that it leaves you with zero belief ahead of a new season then might as well find a new club or sport.

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    DwindlingSun

    Nothing I, you, or anyone can do about our ownership. Good luck with changing that. If you perceive it as so hopeless that it leaves you with zero belief ahead of a new season then might as well find a new club or sport.

    It’s not being about hopeless it’s about doing the opposite and standing up for your club. The Glazers are able to move freely and do whatever they would like because of fans like you who feel hopeless about what they are doing. They feed off it.

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    And this is why! @Mamba please put in OP

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    Valenciaisthebest

    It’s not being about hopeless it’s about doing the opposite and standing up for your club. The Glazers are able to move freely and do whatever they would like because of fans like you who feel hopeless about what they are doing. They feed off it.

    What are you standing up for? I don't understand. This discussion has no tangible impact.

    And, I don't feel hopeless about it at all. I feel very excited for this season. I've said that a few times now. I'm perfectly fine with prioritizing De Jong and making some smaller-scale, smarter signings around him.

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    Cynical-boners are so vogue right now. Get with the picture, @DwindlingSun.

  • Jul 7, 2022

    In positive news, Bruno changed his # to 8. Very cool.

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    Need to keep 21 free I believe that’s Frankie’s preferred number.

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    Marble

    I don’t think they will tbh, rules don’t really apply to these kind of clubs. Frenkie is a b**** to Barca so he won’t make any problems as long as he can play there.

    well for sure we aint paying it for them

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    Twitter embeds broke? Anyway it was a link to a positive FDJ update

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    What are you standing up for? I don't understand. This discussion has no tangible impact.

    And, I don't feel hopeless about it at all. I feel very excited for this season. I've said that a few times now. I'm perfectly fine with prioritizing De Jong and making some smaller-scale, smarter signings around him.

    Hopelessness with this having no impact stems from United fans not being on the same page/ignorant about the situation that the Glazers profit from

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    Tbh ETH does need players who will understand his system and then the whole team can transition into it.

    So it does make sense for him to sign former players and Dutch players who he knows. In the end it’s who he wants and as long as the manager is getting targets that he feels will benefit the team. Then it’s a good thing.

    Because like @DwindlingSun said, in the past we’ve signed good or talented players with no real insight into using them properly. No proper vision under the previous coach

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    DEL_DVYg

    Twitter embeds broke? Anyway it was a link to a positive FDJ update

    Temporarily disabled cus of a bug

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    Root

    Tbh ETH does need players who will understand his system and then the whole team can transition into it.

    So it does make sense for him to sign former players and Dutch players who he knows. In the end it’s who he wants and as long as the manager is getting targets that he feels will benefit the team. Then it’s a good thing.

    Because like @DwindlingSun said, in the past we’ve signed good or talented players with no real insight into using them properly. No proper vision under the previous coach

    Coach will have huge effect tbh, I think EtH can get much more out of these players than our previous coaches and he is the type of coach that can teach and improve a player. Something we haven’t had for ages. So even if we don’t get many signings in I think we’ll still do better than we did before.

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    Think of it like this; if Ole or Rangnick had been coach of Ajax we would probably have never heard of Frenkie De Jong, De Ligt, Ziyech, Antony, Timber, Mazrouai, Gravenberch and Martinez. Or at least not in the same way. In the 6 to 7 years before he came to Ajax they produced so few big names while still having a lot of talented players constantly in the squad. That’s why I’m still optimistic about next season tbh.

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    Marble

    Think of it like this; if Ole or Rangnick had been coach of Ajax we would probably have never heard of Frenkie De Jong, De Ligt, Ziyech, Antony, Timber, Mazrouai, Gravenberch and Martinez. Or at least not in the same way. In the 6 to 7 years before he came to Ajax they produced so few big names while still having a lot of talented players constantly in the squad. That’s why I’m still optimistic about next season tbh.

    I’m not not optimistic of the players I’m as excited as you are. However there is a pattern of bad transfer dealings and this fits with the exact same scenario we face with every time we get a new coach. It’s not who we get it’s how we get them which has shown to not only effect the team in the short-term.

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    Root

    Tbh ETH does need players who will understand his system and then the whole team can transition into it.

    So it does make sense for him to sign former players and Dutch players who he knows. In the end it’s who he wants and as long as the manager is getting targets that he feels will benefit the team. Then it’s a good thing.

    Because like @DwindlingSun said, in the past we’ve signed good or talented players with no real insight into using them properly. No proper vision under the previous coach

    Di maria. What a talent he could have been Ozil type of impact but we wasted that and in general South Americans just don’t love Manchester it’s the truth. They want better lifestyle and weather which we ain’t about.

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    Marble

    Temporarily disabled cus of a bug

    S forgot to pay utilities bill

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    Marble

    Think of it like this; if Ole or Rangnick had been coach of Ajax we would probably have never heard of Frenkie De Jong, De Ligt, Ziyech, Antony, Timber, Mazrouai, Gravenberch and Martinez. Or at least not in the same way. In the 6 to 7 years before he came to Ajax they produced so few big names while still having a lot of talented players constantly in the squad. That’s why I’m still optimistic about next season tbh.

    When I read this guy went to coach Bayern B team instead of taking a Eredivisie job, it made sense he’s the real deal. Without SAF there is no scholes giggs Neville butt Beckham etc maybe even Ronaldo if CR goes straight to Real he will fail. Ten hag reminds me of SAF he can take these guys mentally to the next level as long as they buy in. Like who tg turns down a full time job like that to study from Pep.

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    Has there ever been a Brazilian/Argentine that came good in Manchester / Liverpool? Aguero yes, Coutinho maybe? I was dying back in the day for Rafael and Fabio to be the next greatest but it never happened. Anderson arguably next best after aguero and tevez.

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    Ole vision was rebuild 4-4-2 and quote fergie - it didn’t work when pep and Klopp are ad good as they are.

    Ten hag has real ideas which is honestly exciting af if de jong doesn’t see that so be it we can get other future greats.