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  • Mar 6, 2021
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    Marble

    Nagelsmann is the only coach available that would be better than Ole imo

    allegri is better than ole. in fact even potter is better that ole

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    DREE

    allegri is better than ole. in fact even potter is better that ole

    Allegri won't get us a pl 100%

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    Marble

    Allegri won't get us a pl 100%

    I didn’t watch that juve team much but at least he always won serie a with them every year

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    Marble

    Allegri won't get us a pl 100%

    ole will?

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    DREE

    ole will?

    No, but what’s the point in switching managers if the results wouldn’t get better.

  • Mar 6, 2021
    DEL_DVYg

    I didn’t watch that juve team much but at least he always won serie a with them every year

    That’s not that difficult tho

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    Marble

    No, but what’s the point in switching managers if the results wouldn’t get better.

    We've also seen clear progress under Ole and been the most enjoyable we've been to watch post SAF era.

    Obviously we've had dips but context is huge.

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    We've also seen clear progress under Ole and been the most enjoyable we've been to watch post SAF era.

    Obviously we've had dips but context is huge.

    We do like 2 steps forward 1.5 steps back every 2 months

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    DEL_DVYg

    We do like 2 steps forward 1.5 steps back every 2 months

    I see what you're saying but I disagree when looking at the big picture.

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    I see what you're saying but I disagree when looking at the big picture.

  • Mar 6, 2021
    Marble

    No, but what’s the point in switching managers if the results wouldn’t get better.

    maybe because they will

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    We've also seen clear progress under Ole and been the most enjoyable we've been to watch post SAF era.

    Obviously we've had dips but context is huge.

    no clear progress. just 250 million spent.

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    DREE

    no clear progress. just 250 million spent.

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    DREE

    no clear progress. just 250 million spent.

    I thought you rated Maguire and wan?

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    We've also seen clear progress under Ole and been the most enjoyable we've been to watch post SAF era.

    Obviously we've had dips but context is huge.

    The team rarely passes the eye test and when they do they usually follow with an awful performance. None of the forwards are putting together consistent great or even good performances and the midfield almost never have control of the game
    I get being optimistic but at a certain point you have to wonder when the performances are going to catch up with the results (which aren't even that great)

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    The team rarely passes the eye test and when they do they usually follow with an awful performance. None of the forwards are putting together consistent great or even good performances and the midfield almost never have control of the game
    I get being optimistic but at a certain point you have to wonder when the performances are going to catch up with the results (which aren't even that great)

    The context in which Ole was brought in is key. We had a toxic dressing room and a divided squad who were fragments from past managers.

    Yes he's spent money but he's also shipped a lot of deadweight, especially ones on high wages. This is a process that's still going on ie: Jesse, Phil Jones, Dalot, even Juan Mata to some degree (bit harsh on Juan but his wages are outrageous)

    We had no leaders, Antonio Valencia of all people was captain... Slowly Ole brought in players who are leaders in one by one and we are seeing a much more unified squad. More so than under Moyes, LVG, and Jose imo.

    Bruno Fernandes is undoubtedly the best post-SAF signing and Ole rarely gets credit for being the one to bring him in. He identified him 6 months prior but Glazers/Woodward yet again dragged their feet on backing him and waiting until our squad was depleted due to injuries.

    Bruno is not only an excellent creative force which the midfield has clearly been lacking but a strong character. Having him be the focal point in a squad as young as the current one is excellent management imo.

    To be clear, I dont agree with everything Ole does, but I can not get behind sacrificing all the progress we've had since Jose just to bring in another big manager who will underperform. We have a young team, plenty of homegrown talent, and a manager who knows what it means to play for the shirt. I'm here for it.

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    The context in which Ole was brought in is key. We had a toxic dressing room and a divided squad who were fragments from past managers.

    Yes he's spent money but he's also shipped a lot of deadweight, especially ones on high wages. This is a process that's still going on ie: Jesse, Phil Jones, Dalot, even Juan Mata to some degree (bit harsh on Juan but his wages are outrageous)

    We had no leaders, Antonio Valencia of all people was captain... Slowly Ole brought in players who are leaders in one by one and we are seeing a much more unified squad. More so than under Moyes, LVG, and Jose imo.

    Bruno Fernandes is undoubtedly the best post-SAF signing and Ole rarely gets credit for being the one to bring him in. He identified him 6 months prior but Glazers/Woodward yet again dragged their feet on backing him and waiting until our squad was depleted due to injuries.

    Bruno is not only an excellent creative force which the midfield has clearly been lacking but a strong character. Having him be the focal point in a squad as young as the current one is excellent management imo.

    To be clear, I dont agree with everything Ole does, but I can not get behind sacrificing all the progress we've had since Jose just to bring in another big manager who will underperform. We have a young team, plenty of homegrown talent, and a manager who knows what it means to play for the shirt. I'm here for it.

    Well said
    Easy on the Valencia slander tho

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    At least we getting the Lukaku money now F*** Woodward and everyone who love em Woat businessesman

    Note: we not actually getting the money and have to pick a player off inter or sue them meaning we ain’t getting s***

  • Mar 6, 2021
    Valenciaisthebest

    I thought you rated Maguire and wan?

    i do

  • Mar 6, 2021

    wont reach the 81 points we did when we finished 2nd. cant win a semi final. cant win a big game anymore. all that despite spending 250m.

    progress my ass

  • Mar 6, 2021

    ask any PL manager to do what ole has done and not win, they could do it

  • Mar 6, 2021

    wow he got rid of players without winning. what a manager.

  • Mar 6, 2021
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    I love this thread sometimes and the fact that we have this exact argument every like 2 months too

  • Mar 6, 2021

    If west ham And Leicester make top 4 this season that’s unreal.